are you man enough to mix THIS??? - EPIC Orchestral Metal
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am I the only one having a ton of trouble getting these vox to sound even half-decent??? not to mention the sloppy guitar playing...that 2nd solo is pretty much unusable
JakeAC5253
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Alright dude! Cool of you to do this. I did a quick mix this morning. I am looking forward to playing with this more, but for now this is what I have.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8838613/Symphonic Metal Test 2.mp3
Very cool, enjoying this project a lot.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8838613/Symphonic Metal Test 2.mp3
Very cool, enjoying this project a lot.
glad you enjoy it!! your mix is very good.. i like what you have done to the pans
IS A FUCKING LIVE!!!! AND I LOVE THIS
I need to learn that. Convolution in stereo out?
JakeAC5253
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IS A FUCKING LIVE!!!! AND I LOVE THIS
I need to learn that. Convolution in stereo out?
No convolution, only thing on my stereo buss is a compressor and a Waves L1. Just EQ, compression, and reverb... glad you like it so far
I am still working on it, will update.
JakeAC5253
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Here is an updated mix I've been grinding on. I fixed the high end and tweaked the drums a bit, but might have gone overboard with the low end punchiness in this mix. How does it sound on your end?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8838613/Symphonic Metal Test 2d.mp3
Still haven't done any creative adding/subtracting, purely mixing so far. Not sure if I will either... I sort of like it how it is.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8838613/Symphonic Metal Test 2d.mp3
Still haven't done any creative adding/subtracting, purely mixing so far. Not sure if I will either... I sort of like it how it is.
damn it. I just tried it 3 times to download the rawtracks but everytime i click on the download button i get a 320kb .php file... i hate this "watch our ugly granny porn ads and wait until you can apply for a pension" hosters. Can anybody upload the rawtracks on dropbox or sth like that?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44862070/circum me ira master.mp3
Everything reamped. Guitars are TS -> Krank -> my new Mesa mini recto cab -> SM57 and have a fair amount of hi-/lowpass to fit in a dense mix like this. Additionally they have a dynamic eq on em sidechained to the orchestra to help the stabs cut through the mix. Vox may be a bit on the bright side, after wearing Vic Firth iso head phones for mic'ing for an hour my hearing tends to get fucked.
Everything reamped. Guitars are TS -> Krank -> my new Mesa mini recto cab -> SM57 and have a fair amount of hi-/lowpass to fit in a dense mix like this. Additionally they have a dynamic eq on em sidechained to the orchestra to help the stabs cut through the mix. Vox may be a bit on the bright side, after wearing Vic Firth iso head phones for mic'ing for an hour my hearing tends to get fucked.
wow.... i Mean WWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW
your mix sounds really good... voices and orchestra is just perfect... i'm not keen on the guitar sounds... and maybe i would add a little more gain... but you have Elevated the song to a new level... thats what i feel
Thank you!
Guturals are Slate VCC -> aggressive hi/lowpass -> parallel distortion -> a slight dip at 2.5 k to remove ear bleeding blended to taste with lead vox (VCC -> quite a lot of highs dialed in -> 1176 style comp with attack at noon, release fastest setting).*
Then both routed to a buss with further compression and a limiter to shave off occasional peaks and automated to fit in with the orchestra.*
Two aux busses; one a reverb track with the Bricasti Studio B true stereo ir by Samplicity with everything cut away below 200 Hz. The second aux is my special vox widening trick (well afaik it was Pensado who came up with it).
You take a stereo delay with a bit of modulation and all that hi/lowpass yada yada. Then you need some MS-processing tool and take away all the center information. You may have to flip phase on this track, whatever sounds best as usual.
The guitar sound is taylored not to fuck with the mix as far as possible, quite drastic filtering on them. Also the cab was mic'ed from 5-6" away which isn't really the tone most of you guys are used to, but I found it to be a solid compromise between space occupied in the mix and still being heard with that infernal orchestra blaring all the time.*
Mixing time was 4-5 hrs with an additional hour for reamps.*
It was quite a fun to try and solve this jig-saw puzzle, pues gracias por la oportunidad, manos.
EDIT: Just for shits and giggles I did another version with a more upfront, widerange-y guitar sound. IMO it sits a lot worse with the brass instruments. Due to loudness I was forced to use my Blackstar Blackfire into Two-Notes Torpedo PI on this (can't crank my Krank on a Sunday afternoon).
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44862070/circum me ira master blackstar.mp3
Then both routed to a buss with further compression and a limiter to shave off occasional peaks and automated to fit in with the orchestra.*
Two aux busses; one a reverb track with the Bricasti Studio B true stereo ir by Samplicity with everything cut away below 200 Hz. The second aux is my special vox widening trick (well afaik it was Pensado who came up with it).
You take a stereo delay with a bit of modulation and all that hi/lowpass yada yada. Then you need some MS-processing tool and take away all the center information. You may have to flip phase on this track, whatever sounds best as usual.
The guitar sound is taylored not to fuck with the mix as far as possible, quite drastic filtering on them. Also the cab was mic'ed from 5-6" away which isn't really the tone most of you guys are used to, but I found it to be a solid compromise between space occupied in the mix and still being heard with that infernal orchestra blaring all the time.*
Mixing time was 4-5 hrs with an additional hour for reamps.*
It was quite a fun to try and solve this jig-saw puzzle, pues gracias por la oportunidad, manos.
EDIT: Just for shits and giggles I did another version with a more upfront, widerange-y guitar sound. IMO it sits a lot worse with the brass instruments. Due to loudness I was forced to use my Blackstar Blackfire into Two-Notes Torpedo PI on this (can't crank my Krank on a Sunday afternoon).
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44862070/circum me ira master blackstar.mp3
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