Can we add a "real world" forum to the Sneap forums??

[Melb_shredder]

I too think there could be a cool sub forum eg.
Mic'd drums/ amps etc. Because honestly... I don't really want help for say, "How do get awesome Pod tone/ Axe/ Insert sim here" I'm really interested in micing, amp settings, acoustic treatment and it's effect of micing etc. I understand people like Joey and the like don't have this issue, and that's cool. But I personally don't care for that style of production because most of my influences/ references are all mic'd amps cabs etc. Also, there's a lot to be said about recording drums in terms of overheads blah blah, which doesn't get covered much because most people, *ZOMG* just programmed awesome drums...

I've actually noticed that MOST of the cool info gets found on the home forum page. EG, randy staub thread, bergstrand etc.

So yeah, I'm all up for a sub forum between ITB and OTB.

 

[zildjianmatt]

I too think there could be a cool sub forum eg.
Mic'd drums/ amps etc. Because honestly... I don't really want help for say, "How do get awesome Pod tone/ Axe/ Insert sim here" I'm really interested in micing, amp settings, acoustic treatment and it's effect of micing etc.

So yeah, I'm all up for a sub forum between ITB and OTB.

Fuck yes, +1 from meeeee!!!!

 

[ahjteam]

Production is about a musical vision and how apply this vision for get final product.
Engenering is about technical stuff for get final product

Engineering is part of the production. End of discussion.

 

[narcossintese]

Wouldn´t it be better to make the inverse? I mean, a subforum only for the "in the box/ampsims"?

 

[Sinister Mephisto]

The issue isn't that we don't have a forum to discuss it, the issue is that we don't have very many people doing "real world" engineering on this forum. If there were more of it, it would be discussed more in the forums we already have.

 

[greyskull]

would be too many subforums.

 

[LeSedna]

I don't think it would be too many subforum. I think it doesn't need more than that, it's already quite well organized, it's just I think a subforum only for miking/acoustic/treatment/rooms would be interesting. If someone is into mixing his EP with ampsims and vstis, he doesn't want to read especially about real miking. Although, someone only dealing with recording is not interested in learning about the last ampsims.

It would just draw a line beyond those two worlds, but that doesn't means it cannot be related one to the other. It's just for cleansing convenience. It's not like this forum has too many subforums.

 

[Melb_shredder]

I agree. You can only learn so much about VST and AmpSims etc, but the real world stuff is endless. I mean, even Joey said, he made his tone, and starts from there, and that's cool, and once everyone gets to that point ITB, there's not much else to do or go. I think it would be helpful to split ITB and OTB because then you don't have to sift through endless Axe FX and Pod rate my mix, how do sound like Joey threads. Not that I'm bagging it, I just wish I didn't have to see it all the time and could get to the stuff I think a lot of us in here are asking for

 

[John_C]

Replace the production tips with one subforum for tracking, one for mixing/editing/mastering?

Acoustics and rooms etc. still belonging in the equipment section.

 

[uija]

As soon as there is one, this would start all over with "Can we have a subforum for REAL REAL WORLD, because we don't want to share a place with all those behringer and t.bone questions" s.c.n.t.

 

[shred101]

I dont understand why anyone gives a shit personally... Isnt the music the most important thing at the end of the day? Who cares if someone mixes "in the box" or "out the box" as long as the end result sounds sick.

 

[drew_drummer]

I would like to read more about micing techniques than impulses, more about real amps than amp sims, and more about treating rooms than using cracked copies of ARC with an SM57.

 

[darth_cupboardy]

I would like to read more about micing techniques than impulses, more about real amps than amp sims, and more about treating rooms than using cracked copies of ARC with an SM57.

But doesn't that depend on the people openening and replying to threads etc., and not whether there is a dedicated sub forum ?
But I support this idea. At least it will make life for people who look for "real world" advice easier, and they don't have to browse through dozens of threads about lepous (genius, i love em) Amp sims and midi driven slate samples.
I see the forum then as a book with two chapters 1. in the box 2. out of the box.
So thumbs up from me

 

[shred101]

But doesn't that depend on the people openening and replying to threads etc.,

Yes exactly. Like it or not, "in the box" is popular and its not going away anytime soon purely for the fact that people who make their own music often dont have the money/facilities to do it "out the box".
I much prefer real amps, drums, speakers, etc. to the simulated equivalent but time/money/expertise/gear limitations/etc. dont always make that possible. Why not just get over to the production tips and start balancing things out with posts about "out the box" stuff? Hell I would sure appreciate that rather than having to read two separate forums.

 

[John_C]

I think there's a bit of a difference between mixing in the box and creating all your sounds in the box. Important distinction

 

[nwright]

double post

 

[nwright]

Wouldn't Logic dictate that IF there were more people interested in "real world" recording and not POD/SSD/S2.0/AMPSIMFLAVOROFTHEMONTH then there would be more threads relating to, uh, "real world" recording?

I would LOVE to see a LOT more threads about gear/mikes/techniques, etc., but if the population of the board doesn't gravitate as much that way, then I don't see how adding a subforum would garner anything more. Sure, you wouldn't have to sift through the "sim" threads, but that subforum would probably move at a snails pace. While the amp sim and programmed drums crowd don't do much for me, there is usually still some tidbits of info in terms of processing that can help someone throwing mics up on a cab.

 

[AdamWathan]

Wouldn't Logic dictate that IF there were more people interested in "real world" recording and not POD/SSD/S2.0/AMPSIMFLAVOROFTHEMONTH then there would be more threads relating to, uh, "real world" recording?

I would LOVE to see a LOT more threads about gear/mikes/techniques, etc., but if the population of the board doesn't gravitate as much that way, then I don't see how adding a subforum would garner anything more. Sure, you wouldn't have to sift through the "sim" threads, but that subforum would probably move at a snails pace. While the amp sim and programmed drums crowd don't do much for me, there is usually still some tidbits of info in terms of processing that can help someone throwing mics up on a cab.

By that logic, if I can get enough people on the board to start talking about animal porn, then we can make this an animal porn forum...

Sneap doesn't use amp sims, Superior 2.0, etc. so why should people be talking about that stuff on the Sneap forum? That's taking it to an extreme, but really all that shit is actually pretty off topic for this board. The whole board should be about real audio engineering, not drum programming and sik VST guitar FX chainz, so I think people wanting a place where they can actually talk about the stuff this forum was originally intended for is a modest request.

If this was the Joey Sturgis forum and people started making threads about drum micing and what mic to use for a guitar cab, I would be arguing the same thing and telling those people to go to the Sneap forum because they are not posting in the right place.

I think my quote got blown out of proportion, I like this place and don't really care whatsoever, I just ignore any threads that don't interest me, but it does irk me to see people defending those types of discussions as legitimately belonging in this forum and that because people who do real engineering here are in the minority we don't deserve a place to actually talk about it.

 

[AdamWathan]

Also, anyway to get my quote removed from the first post? I feel like it looks like I initiated this whole thing when all I did was make a little half hearted comment in a random thread... I'm fine with the forum the way it is now, don't want to look responsible for this whole ordeal.

 

[ParsonsMatt]

I would LOVE to see a LOT more threads about gear/mikes/techniques, etc., but if the population of the board doesn't gravitate as much that way, then I don't see how adding a subforum would garner anything more. Sure, you wouldn't have to sift through the "sim" threads, but that subforum would probably move at a snails pace. While the amp sim and programmed drums crowd don't do much for me, there is usually still some tidbits of info in terms of processing that can help someone throwing mics up on a cab.

"Build it and they will come"

A slow forum isn't necessarily a bad thing, either...