Can we add a "real world" forum to the Sneap forums??

[nwright]

By that logic, if I can get enough people on the board to start talking about animal porn, then we can make this an animal porn forum...

Sneap doesn't use amp sims, Superior 2.0, etc. so why should people be talking about that stuff on the Sneap forum? That's taking it to an extreme, but really all that shit is actually pretty off topic for this board. The whole board should be about real audio engineering, not drum programming and sik VST guitar FX chainz, so I think people wanting a place where they can actually talk about the stuff this forum was originally intended for is a modest request.

If this was the Joey Sturgis forum and people started making threads about drum micing and what mic to use for a guitar cab, I would be arguing the same thing and telling those people to go to the Sneap forum because they are not posting in the right place.

I think my quote got blown out of proportion, I like this place and don't really care whatsoever, I just ignore any threads that don't interest me, but it does irk me to see people defending those types of discussions as legitimately belonging in this forum and that because people who do real engineering here are in the minority we don't deserve a place to actually talk about it.

IMO, unless a board is heavily moderated, the users are the ones who will generally dictate what avenue a board takes. If everyone on here talked about animal porn, then yeah, it would probably become known as an animal porn forum. I'd imagine that some ampsim users found this place through keyword searches, etc. Get rid of the material that would apply to their searches (i.e. heavy moderation), and I'd think these topics and the users who wander here would wain, unless of course those looking for presets and sim talk realized that perhaps this wasn't the place to come.

Not that I think that should happen...

 

[Trevoire520]

I would like a real world recording subforum to be honest. If we look at the first page on the Production Tips subforum the ITB threads outnumber the OTB threads by more than 2 to 1.
It would be nice to get more into the nitty gritty of recording real things with mic's, placement and acoustics to deal with.

Maybe we could start off with some dedicated OTB threads and see how it goes?

The Natural Drums Thread
The Natural Amp Thread

other ideas?

 

[AllanD]

I would like a real world recording subforum to be honest. If we look at the first page on the Production Tips subforum the ITB threads outnumber the OTB threads by more than 2 to 1.
It would be nice to get more into the nitty gritty of recording real things with mic's, placement and acoustics to deal with.

Maybe we could start off with some dedicated OTB threads and see how it goes?

The Natural Drums Thread
The Natural Amp Thread

other ideas?

I think that's a pretty great idea.

 

[GarethSE]

Christ why are we arguing about whether it will get used or not?
As it is, we don't even have the option to USE this mythical real world engineering forum.

Why don't we just make one and let it exist for a while, then if it doesn't take off, it can be deleted and we can go back to how we are now?

It's not like this is McDonalds and we're going to lose a million dollars if our latest line of shit sandwich doesn't sell as much as we'd like, it's just an internet forum and such a change is easily reversable.

 

[AllanD]

U mad?

 

[GarethSE]

I'm chill, I'm just not sure why this discussion is happening.

 

[PostMortem1666]

Engineering is part of the production. End of discussion.

Couldn't agree with you more.

 

[shred101]

I would like a real world recording subforum to be honest. If we look at the first page on the Production Tips subforum the ITB threads outnumber the OTB threads by more than 2 to 1.
It would be nice to get more into the nitty gritty of recording real things with mic's, placement and acoustics to deal with.

Maybe we could start off with some dedicated OTB threads and see how it goes?

The Natural Drums Thread
The Natural Amp Thread

other ideas?

Yep. I think this is a great idea.

 

[crillemannen]

The best way if possible is to get the DFHS, POD, Impulses related threads into a sub-forum. thats the only thing that can be quite annoying around here. It gets flooded around here with these posts. But this has been discussed before with no success

 

[shred101]

I dont see why its annoying. The lack of out-the-box is whats more annoying. The content of the production tips just needs balancing out by people who are good with/interested in otb.

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Yeah, this was discussed for pages and pages and pages the last time with no agreement. That's why I put up the plan B forum in the first place.

 

[LeSedna]

I'm wih Gareth : why not try ?

 

[shred101]

In fairness this is blatantly at the point where someone experienced enough in OTB needs to just start a thread and try for a sticky.

 

[Melb_shredder]

^^^ That's the wrong attitude to have though. Your hope is that A thread will get stickied, end of discussion. But that's not what we are after. We want to be able to EASILY distinguish/ chose between ITB and OTB processes. It would be quite efficient to just split the production tips forum to be able to chose between - ITB and OTB.
If you want to learn about micing drums, but want Sim guitars, then it's as simple as KNOWING that you'll find each, in either sub forum, instead of having to sift sift sift.

Lasse, where are you dude? hehe! I say just make it and see how it goes. Personally, I find it sad that the DRUM MICING thread and CLAYMAN thread. the main 2 stickies are essentially the flag bearers of OTB info in this place. It would be cool to just sub forum it all and be able to control the content more. Like I said, lots of people here ARE ITB mixing, but others aren't. Personally, I don't think the endless pages of ITB stuff is helping Ermz right now and his endevours to learn more OTB info. He AND others *myself included* could benefit from going OHH, OTB sub forum, and then know they won't have to deal with all the AMp sim/ SD2.0/ OMG SIK POD TONE ROFLZ threads that are all over this place.

This isn't a stab at ITB mixes, it's just not what everyone wants. And I'm going to just say it ok.... 90/100 of these rate my POD/SD2.0 mixes either sound essentially the same, or some sound fucking bad and the priniciples of ITB mixing have just gone way over peoples heads.

Maybe these people would like to learn micing techniques too, but find themselves swayed over to sims because people like Joey have essentially mastered it and now everyone wants to spend $500 on pods and an interface but still sound like Joey....

 

[Ermz]

I've solved this problem by simply not reading any threads that look like they won't interest me. It's worth trying.

 

[Melb_shredder]

^^^
It's not hard to avoid them, it's hard to avoid the titles

 

[AdamWathan]

I've solved this problem by simply not reading any threads that look like they won't interest me. It's worth trying.

Yeah basically what I'm saying. Forum is what it is whether it's perfect or not, I'm fine to just live with it and enjoy the discussions that interest me while avoiding the ones that don't.

 

[Harry Hughes]

I think there's a bit of a difference between mixing in the box and creating all your sounds in the box. Important distinction

Excellent point made.
Personally I don't own any outboard stuff. It's all plug ins for me, but I do own a real amp and cabinet and a microphone, so at least I'm getting that experience working with the real tools

 

[Felix Neumann]

I have an idea. Just respond to the threads you are interested to


my latest mix (with music video) real amps, real drums blablabla
gabriel g.

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My 3rd time ever mic-ing up a real amp! (hell, it even has real drums!)
Harry Hughes

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Trapped in the mixing hell! (real drums) (Multi-page thread 1 2)
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[drew_drummer]

Also, anyway to get my quote removed from the first post? I feel like it looks like I initiated this whole thing when all I did was make a little half hearted comment in a random thread... I'm fine with the forum the way it is now, don't want to look responsible for this whole ordeal.

If you care that much, then I'll remove it. But er.. it WAS you who kick started this all off. I just moved it to a dedicated thread.