Controversial opinions on metal

[HamburgerBoy]

I like Armored Saint btw, I just wanted to make it extra personal.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I like Armored Saint btw, I just wanted to make it extra personal.

Come HB, you know better, if you want to make it personal with Ozz, just recite his cholesterol results from his last checkup. Or be reasonable about not liking Jungle Rot. Your pick.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

WTF? Plodding and dull? I could see the case for The Thing that Should Not Be and Welcome Home, but the rest of the album is driven. And Escape is easily the worst song of the first four albums. The only one that is lower than a 8/10 (I'd give it a 6/10).

Welcome Home is one of the best songs on that album.

The Shortest Straw < all

2nd weakest track on that album... with Harvester of Sorrow taking the cake.

Escape is better than Battery and Leper Messiah. Possibly Sanitarium and Damage Inc as well.

good song, but no. not better than any of these ... except maybe Damage Inc. Nah, i take that back, not better than any of those songs.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Ride the Lightning > Kill 'Em All > Master of Puppets > ...And Justice for All

And like Crimson said, there's really no wrong way to rank these.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Master of Puppets > Ride the Lightning > ...and Justice for All > Kill 'Em All

Quick @Krow get in here, I know you're going to wanna weigh in on this

 

[CiG]

I have always loved the production on AJFA. Super raw and visceral.

Doesn't sound raw or visceral to me at all, but I know that there are a few different remixes of it, maybe I just have a copy with the original shit sound.

 

[Krow]

Quick @Krow get in here, I know you're going to wanna weigh in on this

Monday morning here and I have no clue what you meant by this. Not even piss drunk do I want to argue about Metallica.

 

[The Ozzman]

Monday morning here and I have no clue what you meant by this. Not even piss drunk do I want to argue about Metallica.

I think that's the joke he was making....the fact that you hate talking about Metallica at this point.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Monday morning here and I have no clue what you meant by this. Not even piss drunk do I want to argue about Metallica.

Have a coffee and wait for your sarcasm detector to start working

 

[Krow]

Hangover brain

 

[Satanstoenail]

Doesn't sound raw or visceral to me at all, but I know that there are a few different remixes of it, maybe I just have a copy with the original shit sound.

Official remixes?

 

[CiG]

Yeah, it's not hip hop my dude.

 

[Bloopy]

MoP is the weakest.

Agreed. Emotionless and dry is how I usually describe it. The Thing That Should Not Be is a plodder though.

Harvester of Sorrow is the best.

 

[no country for old wainds]

the thing that's notable about the AJFA sound is how totally devoid of warmth it is. i love how that serves some of the material, it's perfect for shit like despair or dystopian menace.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Yeah, it's not hip hop my dude.

NOW FOR THE OBSCURE AS FUCK LIL UZI, JOEY BADA$$, DUBWUB REMIX OF STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON...

 

[CiG]

the thing that's notable about the AJFA sound is how totally devoid of warmth it is. i love how that serves some of the material, it's perfect for shit like despair or dystopian menace.

It sounds dry and soulless.

 

[The Butt]

Tbh I think the production sounds sharp as fuck and I enjoy it for whatever reason.

 

[no country for old wainds]

It sounds dry and soulless.

well yes, but i'm not sure why you've suddenly changed the subject to your mother's vagina.

 

[CiG]

Because I know what you wanna hear.

 

[CiG]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...And_Justice_for_All_(album)#Production_and_recording

Steve Thompson, who mixed the album, claims that Ulrich was squarely to blame for the inaudible bass and unusual drums. Thompson wanted to be relieved of his mixing duties when Ulrich presented his ideas on the production, but Thompson was not allowed to leave and received the majority of the criticism for the poor sound quality of the record.

Fucking Ulrich, should have known it was somehow his fault in some way.

The album was noted for its "dry, sterile" production.[21] Rasmussen said that was not his intention, as he tried for an ambient sound similar to the previous two albums. He was not present during the album's mixing, for which Steve Thompson and Michael Barbiero had been hired beforehand. Rasmussen felt that, in his absence from the mixing process, Thompson and Barbiero ended up using only the close microphones on the mix and none of the room microphones, thus causing the "clicking", thin drum sound.[8] Popoff noted that because of the strange production, the bass guitar was nearly inaudible, while the guitars sounded "strangled mechanistic".[22] He saw the "synthetic" percussion as another reason for the album's compressed sound.[23] The sound has nearly-inaudible bass guitar, which Rasmussen claims was ordered by Hetfield and Ulrich after hearing the initial mixes, resulting in his belief that "Jason Newsted, [engineer] Toby Wright and I are probably the only people who know what the bass parts actually sounded like on that album".[8] Thompson similarly blamed Ulrich for the inaudible bass, stating that Ulrich ordered him to remove the bass from the mix.[11] In their defense, Hetfield and Ulrich said that most of Newsted's bass lines closely followed the rhythm guitar lines to the point of being indiscernible from each other.[24] A lack of direction is also partly to blame; since the album was largely produced by the band, there was no one present in the studio to guide the band's new bassist and tell him what was expected of him, something a producer would typically do.[25] Newsted was not satisfied with the final mixes: "The Justice album wasn't something that really felt good for me, because you really can't hear the bass.

What a shitfest.