Controversial opinions on metal

[S<issors]

also everyone who OMGZZZ about Opeth is the same about Dream Theater, and PT, and Tool.

Everyone.

Nah, I like Tool a hell of a lot and don't like the other bands. YOU FAIL SIR.

DT, Opeth, and PTree all rule. And PTree generally have pretty solid lyrics, but I could understand why people might find them annoying.

Tool are thoroughly mediocre.

 

[MasterOLightning]

I could see how dropping "email" and "Xbox" into the lyrics could be off-putting. PT is pretty hit and miss on lyrics. I think the most recent one worked because it was from the perspective of a 12-year-old sometimes, or whatever.

 

[Dak]

Except that 90% of metal lyrics are about killing christians and shit.

Exercising our ability to exaggerate are we?

 

[Vegard Pompey]

Not really. Opeth and Tool are both extremely mediocre compared to the might of PT and DT

Fixed.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

The usual problem when you have a band who's lyrics are put on a super high pedestal is that there's usually pretentiousness for people to rally behind, which is something that has stemmed all the way from the pompousness and elitism of the 'singer-songwriter' label and following. On the flip side, it's frustrating that most don't even care about a lot of lyrics in general. Like most things, where's the middle ground?

 

[ShredHeadJHJ]

also everyone who OMGZZZ about Opeth is the same about Dream Theater, and PT, and Tool.

Everyone.

Not true; when it comes down to me at least...

*DT are probably my favorite long time band.
*Opeth are OK, but I never understood the praise for them really... Maybe I just have not heard enough of their stuff.
*I like Porcupine Tree, but don't classify them among any of the other bands.
*I'm in between on Tool. I can't listen to them too much.

Only band I'm OMORZZZZZZZ about is DT & possibly PC if they continue to grow on me. I think all the bands have great respectable qualities, however.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

Right now, I'd rank Dream Theater as my second favourite band/artist ever after Devin Townsend. Porcupine Tree are great. Opeth... It's probably good but it's not for me. Same with Tool.

 

[no country for old wainds]

when i was an opeth fanboy i didn't like PT, tool or DT

 

[divine_torture]

*Opeth are OK, but I never understood the praise for them really... Maybe I just have not heard enough of their stuff.

Cuz the actual musicianship. So much skill. And they're unique, at least originally, for their folk influence, acoustic parts, and 10+ min songs.

 

[General Zaroff]

10+ min songs are a negative to me.

 

[King Richard]

Song lengths are completely irrelevant and stupid to base an opinion of a band on tbch.

 

[no country for old wainds]

i agree but i think long songs are a lot more difficult to pull off and so this could give the illusion that the length is in itself bad

 

[SouthernTrendkill]

I'd say long songs is an entirely valid thing to like or dislike. It's a major part of the music and the style. Same thing as how I find grindcore extremely difficult to get into because 1 minute songs don't move me.

 

[divine_torture]

Totally agree. Long songs can make or break my opinion. Older Opeth I liked cuz they were interesting despite the length. But now the formula is redundant and I get bored. I can listen to Dodsferd with 10 min songs and it keeps me interested. But if it's just a bunch of wankery and nothingness I get bored, so I can't enjoy a band that bores me. Despite actual skill.

 

[Xorv]

plz to explain Evergrey = 'progressive'

they progress'








duh

 

[Xorv]

On the topic of lyrics

dax riggs (acid bath) and the guy from pig destroyer write the best lyrics in my opinion.

 

[ShredHeadJHJ]

Right now, I'd rank Dream Theater as my second favourite band/artist ever after Devin Townsend.

But all Devin's stuff sounds the same...

I would never in a million years put the musicianship caliber of Opeth with bands like Dream Theater, Symphony X, Adagio, Yngwie, Angra, Necrophagist & even Megadeth. They can write pretty cool songs, but none of them are masters of their instrument. Mikeal has even "put down" his guitar playing skills on a few occassions, or so I heard.

 

[Omni]

Most of the bands you just named aren't even very good examples of high-caliber musical skill and technical proficiency.

 

[ShredHeadJHJ]

Most of the bands you just named aren't even very good examples of high-caliber musical skill and technical proficiency.

lawlz. Well then why don't you name some & show me up??

 

[SentinelSlain]

My IT teacher said the best guitarist in the world is the one in Focus. Is that true or approaching being true?