Controversial opinions on metal
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I can't get into a lot of trad doom. I like bands like Candlemass, Warning, Solstice, Cathedral (first album), Solitude Aeternus, etc., but I can't get into bands like Odoruin, Revelation, St. Vitus, Trouble, etc. Maybe I just like trad doom that has a gloomy feel to it. I dunno. Pretty controversial though.
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I don't like bouncy/stoner stuff either and find it amusing that such hippie music is labeled as doom... 
I like it to either sound like a slow, dark suicide, or be progressive and epic...in either case, get it away from the blues romping. I know that was a lot of the sound in the first place but I never liked that element at all.
I like it to either sound like a slow, dark suicide, or be progressive and epic...in either case, get it away from the blues romping. I know that was a lot of the sound in the first place but I never liked that element at all.
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The only "bouncy," "bluesy" doom band I like is Sabbath (only up through Sabotage). I like Sabbath, but I don't like modern Sabbath clones at all.
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True. It just depends how bluesy and in what way. After all, the tritone is only found in the minor panatonic blues scale, and not in any of the minor scales derived from the traditional major scale.
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Pretty much, because "bluesy" is totally fucking dark and wild.
Trouble is not really musically different or atmospherically different than say Solitude Aeturnus or Cathedral. I would say Trouble is just as gloomy and Cathedral basically sound like them.
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It depends. It can be but usually isn't IMO. I would hardly call stoner doom dark and wild, and I certainly wouldn't call bluesy hard rock (Led Zeppelin. Great White, etc.) dark and wild.
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Maybe I need to listen to Trouble again. But I still can't see myself ever getting into stoner doom or second rate Sabbath clone bands.
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I agree with most of that. I was actually referring to old traditional American blues music, which is usually dark, and the guys who played it were fucking crazy. Those are some of the most badass, wildest motherfuckers you will ever read about.
And some blues/jazz influenced stuff can be extremely dark and wild (I'm thinking of Tom Waits now).
And as was said earlier, Sabbath is possibly the best example for metal.
Blues can be very dark musically. I mean like the first original blues guitarists around 1920 who were musically and lyrically dark and probably controversial for the time. Blues by some is considered Devils music and apparently the first blues guitarist sold/traded their souls to the devil,etc..
Old Danzig is blues and some of the darkest music in terms of heavy music.
Old Danzig is blues and some of the darkest music in terms of heavy music.
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Good call. II Lucifuge and III How The Gods Kill are good examples of that.
I think depressive black metal for the most part isn't depressive at all. It's usually just really drawn-out, boring and lethargic. 
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