Naglfar
As Naglfar devours us all
paradoxile said:well, I never said Jon wasn't a biggot or a racist...I just said he wasn't a nazi...I totally agree with you on that point and might I add they killed a BLACK gay immigrant which kinda proves the whole racist thing. so I agree with you there.
I have to ask because I truelly don't know, was there any talk of white supremacy prior to WWII...because racism and antisemitism was rooted everywhere in the world because it was rooted in christianity(the whole jews killed jesus thing,they see gypsies as heretics etc. etc.) and it was spread by the crusades which took scandinavia from the bloody arms of thor into the bloody arms of the pope.
so the question is what caused what? Was it the white supremecy thing that there all along who caused among others the appearence of nazism and therefore nazi metal or Was it the Hitler's actions that got some of the scandinavians thinking about the whole idea of white supremecy in which case the white supremacy is a subsection of nazism and not the other way around...
without a clear answer to the original question that would be asking what came first,the chicken or the egg?
about the killing jews in the holocaust...it wasn't cynide that was used in the gas chambers(they were gas showers in fact when the jews were fooled into thinking they were going to take a shower so there would be no lice epidemic in the camp)..cynide pills was the way Hitler and Eva Braun(may they rot in hell) commited sucide when the allied forces took Berlin.
The gas used in the gas showers was Cyclone B...it was a tablet(square inch by size) that desolved into deadly gas when came in contact with air...and it kind of makes me wonder Cyclone B or is it Zyklon?
anyway I guess you're right about the music passing by.
I kinda hate what "Black" music has turned into(again not all black music)...
I remember when when rap and hip hop were all about getting equal rights and fighting for what's right and the art of breakdancing and scratching records...you needed skill. now the creating of a beat takes about 5 minutes using a home computer and every gangster has a label and you can have an album done in 9 days which will sell 10 or a 100 fold of the best metal album of all time while the subjects discussed on the album are guns,killing each other,dissing other rappers,pimping bitches, and getting high...sure there's will smith but who the hell would buy his record these days.
Zyklon B is what was used in the gas chambers. It's a gas form of cyanide; I dunno what the chemical was originally used for, but it is indeed what was used in the gas chambers. At least it was in Auschwitz. According to wikipedia it was also developed by a Jew.
Racism is a pretty old phenomenon, I'm not sure where you would find the first instances of it. White supremacy probably didn't develop into its moderm form until Darwin came along, and to my knowledge it wasn't until the late 19th century, when Social Darwinist ideas were in vogue, that you see something that resembles what we consider today to be white supremacist thinking. It depends on how you look at slavery, also. I'd say the stuff we had in the 30s and 40s was a direct descendant of 19th century Social Darwinist thinking, and not so much that of, say, slaveholding Southern planters in the US.
Hitler also referred to Norse people as German "cousins" of sort, so I'm not surprised that there are Scandinavians who are ok with Nazi ideals (although I'm sure it's a very tiny minority). I doubt anyone argues that the Nazi occupation of Norway was a good thing; and since Social Darwinist ideas of race predate Hitler, there were probably racists in Norway long before the crazy mustasched guy came along. It's not like Hitler invented racism and anti-Semitism.