Dave Mustaine vs. Jon Nödtveidt

FIGHT

  • Dave "Crusade for Christ" Mustaine

    Votes: 8 25.8%
  • Jon "Misanthropic Warrior" Nödtveidt

    Votes: 23 74.2%

  • Total voters
    31
For the record though, Jon isnt associated with the church of satan, rather the MLO- http://www.mlo-scandinavia.tk/
I may not agree with the opinons of either of them, but its pretty silly for us to debate this in the first place. Jon might be a little more extreme in his demeanor, but maybe thats just because he has strong convictions. Who knows.
 
Nate The Great said:
Satanism isn't a cult and it isn't a religion.

www.churchofsatan.com

Jon has done no research, and he speaks from his ass.
I hope you aren't serious, because NOONE in black metal is affiliated with those Church of Satan faggots. What Jon and everyone else considers Satanism is pretty much the exact opposite of that shit.
 
Erik said:
I hope you aren't serious, because NOONE in black metal is affiliated with those Church of Satan faggots. What Jon and everyone else considers Satanism is pretty much the exact opposite of that shit.
Why, because it is actually a viable alternative to Christian thought, but without getting into the idiotic cartoon aspect of most "Satanic" bands? EDIT: What I mean is that a ton of "Satanic" bands just use the imagery but don't really worship the devil, they just like the cool lyrics and such.
MLO site said:
This separates MLO from the imitation satanists of today, who have created a tame, non-dynamic, essenceless and pacifistic/atheistic form of what they call Satanism. Satanism in its true and primal form is the religion of the secret elite and is not for the weak-minded, apathetic masses. It is therefore Anti-Satanic trying to portray the Left Hand Path as the harmless worshipping of the ego and something that the prevalent world order and society should accept.
Oh, good to know that the MLO somehow knows the "true" definition of Satanism.
 
who cares, both bands suck these days anyway. put their asses in the heavy metal retirement home and they can duke it out over a game of Super Mariocart.
 
EDIT: What I mean is that a ton of "Satanic" bands just use the imagery but don't really worship the devil, they just like the cool lyrics and such. Oh, good to know that the MLO somehow knows the "true" definition of Satanism.
OK, but I didn't speak of bands like that, I spoke of actual Satanic bands, so your post is null, void and worthless, BUH-BYE TO YOUR POST, save your keyboard next time
 
Erik said:
OK, but I didn't speak of bands like that, I spoke of actual Satanic bands, so your post is null, void and worthless, BUH-BYE TO YOUR POST, save your keyboard next time
Don't you know how worthless posts that say "worthless post" are? You are also assuming that any post actually has any worth, especially in a ridiculous thread such as this where the entire story of what happened between Dave and Jon (if anything) has still yet to be revealed.

As if it wasn't obvious enough, this is Jon's attempt at getting press coverage about the newly reformed Dissection, and it's obviously working. Good for him, now I won't go see them like I planned.
 
One last question before I bail on this thread like I should have long ago (especially with the Dimebag rags going on now), what is the Satanism that the Satanic bands follow? Is it this MLO hudda or something else?

Either way, why does it have any more or less worth than any other made up religions, like Christianity, Church of Satan, and others?
 
One Inch Man said:
Either way, why does it have any more or less worth than any other made up religions, like Christianity, Church of Satan, and others?

Ask Nate, who you agreed with, since he's the one that said it wasn't a religion.
 
I was asking Erik or anyone that has the answer, he said Satanic bands are the opposite of the Church of Satan so I'm wondering what that is. Do they worship the Christian devil? The dark forces of the universe? A hooker with a dysentery?

I happen to really like the Church of Satan. I'm not a member or anything, but it has some nice ideals. Hey, so does Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, and even Islam. Just not Mormonism, my goat that shit is stupid.
 
I have a friend who is a Mormon, he is absolutely whipped by his church and parents. He doesn't want to live the way he is, so me and some people are trying to help him get out of it. When he graduates from high school (he's a year behind us), he's supposed to go on some retreat/mission for 5 years or something even if he likes it or not. What a terrible, terrible thing.
 
Erik said:
I doubt you
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should speak of what's "overrated" and not. :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco:

Whatever chief, even in the halls of eternity, Dimebag still wipes the floor with Quorthon "I can't carry a tune to save my life"!!!
 
One Inch Man said:
EDIT: What I mean is that a ton of "Satanic" bands just use the imagery but don't really worship the devil, they just like the cool lyrics and such.
Dissection are pretty much the real deal here (and dammitI'm late here, the MLO shitz was alreadyposted bla bla