Debut albums...

[labrekk]

Someone at the Power Zone asked about the best "debut albums" and said he had a hard time picking five. That's not my case as here's a list of debut albums I quite enjoyed, in the hard rock/heavy metal field. And I'm sure I forgot some good ones.

What about your faves, from this list, or any other?

Debut albums I like (full album, no EP):

ALLEN/LANDE-the battle 2005
ANGELS OF BABYLON-kingdom of evil 2010
ASTRAL DOORS-of the son and the father 2003
ANTHRAX-fistful of metal 1983
AVANTASIA-the metal opera Pt.1 2001
ALCATRAZZ-no parole from rock and roll 1983
ARMORED SAINT-march of the saint 1984
BLAZE-slicon messiah 2000
BLOODBOUND-nosferatu 2006
D.C. COOPER-s/t 1999
CHASTAIN-mystery of illusion 1984
CIRCLE II CIRCLE-watching in silence 2003
CIVILIZATION ONE-revolution rising 2007
CLOUDSCAPE-s/t 2005
COLDSPELL-infinite stargaze 2009
CRIMSON CULT-s/t 2009
DEF LEPPARD-on through the night 1980
DEMON-night of the demon 1981
DIGNITY-project destiny 2008
DIO-holy diver 1983
DIRTY DEEDS-danger of infection 1998
DOCTOR BUTCHER-s/t 1994
DOGPOUND-the hellbum 2003
DREAM EVIL-dragonslayer 2002
ELIXIR-the son of odin 1986
EUROPE-s/t 1983
EVIDENCE ONE-criticize the truth 2002
FALCONER-s/t 2001
FASTWAY-s/t 1983
FIFTH ANGEL-s/t 1986
GRAVE DIGGER-heavy metal breakdown 1984
GRIFFIN-flight of the griffin 1984
GRIM REAPER-see you in hell 1984
STEVE GRIMMETT-personal crisis 2007
GUN BARREL-power dive 2001
HALFORD-resurrection 2000
HANKER-in our world 1994
HAMMERFALL-glory to the brave 1997
IRON MAIDENs/t 1980
JAG PANZER-ample destruction 1984
KING DIAMOND-fatal portrait 1986
LEATERWOLF-s/t 1984
LECHERY-violator 2006
LEVERAGE-tides 2006
LETTER X-time of the gathering 1991
LIONS SHARE-s/t 1995
LIONSHEART-s/t 1991
LORDI-get heavy 2002
MACHINE MEN-scars & wounds 2003
MALICE-in the beginning 1985
MANIGANCE-ange ou démon 2002
MARSHALL LAW-s/t 1989
TONY MARTIN-scream 2005
MASTERPLAN-s/t 2002
MEGADETH-killing is my business... 1985
METALLICA-kill'em all 1983
METAL CHURCH-s/t 1985
MEMENTO MORI-rhymes of lunacy 1993
MERCYFUL FATE-melissa 1983
METALIUM-millenium metal Chapter One 1999
MIND FUNK-s/t 1991
MIND ODYSSEY-keep it all turning 1993
MISTER KITE-all in time 2002
MISSING TIDE-foloow the dreamer 2009
MOB RULES-savage land 1999
THE MICHAEL SCHENKER GROUP-s/t 1980
NARITA-s/t 1992
OMEN-battle cry 1984
OUTLOUD-s/t 2009
OZZY OSBOURNE-blizzard of ozz 1981
THE POODLES-metal will stand tall 2006
PHANTOM BLUE-s/t 1989
PRETTY MAIDS-red, hot & heavy 1984
PRIMAL FEAR-s/t 1998
Q5-steel the light 1985
RAINBOW-s/t 1975
RATT-out of the cellar 1984
RAZORBACK-criminal justice 2005
RED CIRCUIT-trance state 2006
REDKEY-rage of fire 2006
ROB ROCK-rage of creation 2000
RUNNING WILD-gates to purgatory 1984
SAVAGE-loose'n'lethal 1983
SAVATAGE-sirens 1983
SECTION A-the seventh sign 2003
SEVEN WITCHES-second war in heaven 1999
SHOK PARIS-go for the throat 1984
SILENT FORCE-the empire of future 2000
SILVERLANE-above the others 2010
SORTILEGE-metamorphose 1984
STARBREAKER-s/t 2005
STAR ONE-space metal 2002
STORMWITCH-walpurgis night 1984
TAD MOROSE-leaving the past behind 1993
TAROT-spell of iron 1986
TAROT'S MYST-odyssey 1999
TEARS OF ANGER-still alive 2004
THE RING-tales from midgard 2004
THE RODS-s/t 1981
TIERRA SANTA-medieval 1997
TOKYO BLADE-s/t 1983
TORCH-s/t (or warlock) 1983
TRANCE-break out 1982
TROUBLE-psalm 9 1984
TT QUICK-metal of honor 1986
TWILIGHT-eye for an eye 1993
TWINBALL-remnants of a broken souls 2002
TYRAN' PACE-eye to eye 1984
VENGEANCE-s/t 1984
VICIOUS RUMORS-soldiers of the night 1985
VOICE-prediction 1998
VOLBEAT-the strenght/the sound/ the songs 2005
WARLOCK-burning the witches 1984
WARRIOR-fighting for the earth 1985
W.A.S.P.-s/t 1984
WHITE WIZZARD-over the top 2010
WICKED SENSATION-reflected 2001
WIDOWMAKER-blood and bullets 1993
WINTERS BANE-heart of a killer 1993
WITCHCROSS-fit for fight 1984
X-WILD -so what 1994
ZAR-live your life forever 1990
Z-keepers of the sign 1999

Guillaume

 

[nomisofsiman]

Some of those I would have trouble listing as debut albums. As much as I love Halford, it's not like he was a spring chicken when Resurrection came out. Same goes with Avantasia and King Diamond. I know technically yes, they are debuts but I would classify those albums on a completely different level than, say, the first Iron Maiden or Black Sabbath album. As far as my favorite though, I would have to go with Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus.

 

[KYF_Cincinnati]

Favorite debut album of all time = METAL CHURCH - (1984) METAL CHURCH

 

[General Zod]

What about your faves, from this list...

FIFTH ANGEL-s/t 1986
LEATERWOLF-s/t 1984
W.A.S.P.-s/t 1984

From your list, only these would make my list.

...or any other?

Your three, plus these 17, would make up my Top 20 debuts...

Alice in Chains - Facelift
Ark - Ark
Babylon A.D. - S/T
Badlands - S/T
Circus Maximus - 1st Chapter
Futures End - Memoirs of a Broken Man
Kingdom Come - S/T
Motley Crue - S/T
Pearl Jam - Ten
Prophet - Cycle of the Moon
Queensryche - The Warning
Riverside - Out of Myself
Shark Island - Law of the Order
Skid Row - S/T
Tesla - Mechanical Resonance
Tora Tora - Surprise Attack
Vai, Steve - Passion & Warfare
Warrior Soul - Last Decade, Dead Century

Some of those I would have trouble listing as debut albums.

This. I left out EPs, side projects, all-star projects, solo projects, etc.

 

[drmetal8]

As far as mainstream music, I've always said 'Appetite For Destruction' was the best debut album.
To come out on the first album and just kick people in the teeth like that was amazing.

I've always liked Boston's debut album also.

 

[J-Dubya 777]

Vai, Steve - Passion & Warfare

I hate to be picky, but there was Flexible & Flexible Leftovers before P&W.
Not discounting the greatness that IS P&W, but it wasn't a debut....

Interesting topic, I have to give this some thought....

At least there isn't any PoS yet.....

 

[nomisofsiman]

As far as mainstream music, I've always said 'Appetite For Destruction' was the best debut album.
To come out on the first album and just kick people in the teeth like that was amazing.

For sure.

 

[Comic Book Dude]

Sword-Metalized
Rough Cutt-s/t
The Rods-s/t
Racer X-Street Lethal
Lethal-Programmed
Obsession-Scarred For Life
Shok Paris-Go For The Throat
TT Quick-Metal Of Honor
Lord Tracy-Deaf Gods Of Babylon

 

[Soundscape]

5?
Apes and Androids - Blood Moon
The Receiving End of Sirens - Between the Heart and the Synapse
Subterranean Masquerade - Suspended Animation Dreams
The Stiletto Formal - Fiesta, Fiesta, Fiesta, Fiesta
The River Empires - The River Empires (Epilogue)

I'm sure a lot of people would agree.

 

[euleria]

I hate to be picky, but there was Flexible & Flexible Leftovers before P&W.
Not discounting the greatness that IS P&W, but it wasn't a debut....

What constitutes a debut album for a solo instrumentalist seems a bit of a puzzle. Is Malmsteen's Rising Force a debut album? (If so, it is in my top five.) Or was his debut with Alkatrazz or Steeler?

With Vai, you could argue that his solo material was completely different from the genre where he made his name (Zappa). His work with FZ, Alkatrazz, Roth, and even Whitesnake predate Passion and Warfare, although it is true that P&W was his debut for most of his current fanbase.

(Someone listed Rainbow's 1975 album as a debut, which raises other somewhat related issues. Is "Stranger in us all" another debut album from Rainbow? Is "Perfect Strangers" a debut DP album? Or "Purpendicular"?)

 

[edgeofthorns]

Debut albums I like (full album, no EP):

ASTRAL DOORS-of the son and the father 2003
BLOODBOUND-nosferatu 2006
CIRCLE II CIRCLE-watching in silence 2003
DIO-holy diver 1983
DOCTOR BUTCHER-s/t 1994
FIFTH ANGEL-s/t 1986
MASTERPLAN-s/t 2002
MEGADETH-killing is my business... 1985
METALLICA-kill'em all 1983
OZZY OSBOURNE-blizzard of ozz 1981
RAINBOW-s/t 1975
RATT-out of the cellar 1984
ROB ROCK-rage of creation 2000
SAVATAGE-sirens 1983
TROUBLE-psalm 9 1984
W.A.S.P.-s/t 1984

Above are the ones I'd keep from your list.

~Brian~

 

[cslebn]

At least there isn't any PoS yet.....

Because you asked....

Entropia was a kick ass album

 

[labrekk]

Your three, plus these 17, would make up my Top 20 debuts...

Alice in Chains - Facelift
Ark - Ark
Babylon A.D. - S/T
Badlands - S/T
Circus Maximus - 1st Chapter
Kingdom Come - S/T
Motley Crue - S/T
Pearl Jam - Ten
Prophet - Cycle of the Moon
Queensryche - The Warning
Riverside - Out of Myself
Shark Island - Law of the Order
Skid Row - S/T
Tesla - Mechanical Resonance
Tora Tora - Surprise Attack
Vai, Steve - Passion & Warfare
Warrior Soul - Last Decade, Dead Century

This. I left out EPs, side projects, all-star projects, solo projects, etc.

AiC-facelift is indeed excellent and my fave of them.
No big QR fan, but The Warning had some fine tunes for sure.
The 1st Skid Row has some fine songs, but I really prefer Slave To The Grind.
The 1st Badlands was very good indeed.

 

[General Zod]

I hate to be picky, but there was Flexible & Flexible Leftovers before P&W.

No problem with the pickiness. I had been under the impression that Flexible was an EP. Learn something new every day.

 

[labrekk]

Sword-Metalized
Rough Cutt-s/t
The Rods-s/t
Racer X-Street Lethal
Lethal-Programmed
Obsession-Scarred For Life
Shok Paris-Go For The Throat
TT Quick-Metal Of Honor
Lord Tracy-Deaf Gods Of Babylon

Damn, I completely forgot the Sword-Metalized disc, one of the best of the 80s. I also forgot Deaf Dealer-Keeper of the Flame...

The Obsession and Racer X are good too. Rough Cutt was cool.

 

[euleria]

So much of what's been posted goes back to the 80s, so possibly that's clouded my judgment. But right now my top five would be:

Yngwie Rising Force*
Silver Mountain Shakin' Brains
Satan Court in the Act
Queensryche The Warning
Loudness Birthday Eve

(What is the html code for y-umlaut?)

* Is this a debut? Hmmm. If not, replace with Queen I, or Engine.

 

[zinescene]

Don't know if I could narrow it to 5 but some of my favorites would include

Boston - Boston (nothing could even touch this IMO)
Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced.
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin 1
Lynyrd Skynyrd -pronounced 'lĕh-'nérd 'skin-'nérd)
Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Oz
Metallica - Kill Em All
Metal Church - Metal Church
Van Halen - Van Halen
Iron Angel - Hellish Crossfire
Grave Digger - Heavy Metal Breakdown

 

[Mardoch]

No need for the Pain of Salvation hate, I listened to Entropia again the other day and it's still badass. If you like Pain of Salvation it is, at any rate.

Some other notable debuts for me would be:
Circus Maximus - The 1st Chapter
Ark - Ark (Too bad they didn't stay together. My personal favorite of Jorn's stuff)
Metallica - Kill 'em All (about the only album of theirs I still like)
Norther - Dreams of Endless War
Warmen - Unknown Soldier (I guess this might not count, depending on one's criteria)
Demon Hunter - Demon Hunter (if for no other reason than A Broken Upper Hand...that song makes me want to break stuff, it's so badass)
Dream Evil - Dragonslayer
Myrath - Hope
Riverside - Out of Myself
Scar Symmetry - Symmetric in Design
Serenity - Words Untold & Dreams Unlived
Sevendust - Sevendust
Solution .45 - For Aeon's Past (may not count depending on criteria)
Sybreed - Slave Design
Thought Chamber - Angular Perceptions
Andromeda - Extension of the Wish (though I really prefer the redo with their David Fremburg, that still counts, right?)
Bloodsimple - A Cruel World
Dynahead - Antigen
Cloakwheel - This Crooked Path You've Drawn
Jon Finn Group - Don't Look So Serious


A few more of those than the ones I noted may be DQ depending on how you look at it. Also some of those are the only albums. Either way, they're all awesome initial efforts.

 

[J-Dubya 777]

What constitutes a debut album for a solo instrumentalist seems a bit of a puzzle. Is Malmsteen's Rising Force a debut album? (If so, it is in my top five.) Or was his debut with Alkatrazz or Steeler?

With Vai, you could argue that his solo material was completely different from the genre where he made his name (Zappa). His work with FZ, Alkatrazz, Roth, and even Whitesnake predate Passion and Warfare, although it is true that P&W was his debut for most of his current fanbase.

Well, it was a self financed/sold/marketed release in 1984, post-Zappa, and his first SOLO cd. P&W was his first HUGE hit with the masses. I do get what you mean about instrumental releases. I'd probably consider Rising Force YJM's debut, but part of me wants to say "Steeler", but then that would make Vai's debut Tinseltown Rebellion......It's making my head hurt!!!

Because you asked....

Entropia was a kick ass album

BAAAAAAAAASTTTTAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRDDD!

(I do actually find Entropia & OHBtCL their most listenable stuff)

No problem with the pickiness. I had been under the impression that Flexible was an EP. Learn something new every day.

Leftovers was the EP, I think in it's original form it still had 8 songs on it...
As weird as those 2 releases are, they are desert island discs/records for me. What a great time to be a fan of that kind of stuff back then......sigh.....


It's all good

 

[seh750]

Gotta add a few:

Angra - Angels Cry
Annihilator - Alice in Hell
Darkwater - Calling The Earth To Witness
The Crystal Method - Vegas (oh wait, wrong genre, sorry...)