Wow, you're stupid, that's not what I was saying. The essence of my argument was that the threshold for what is considered heavy changes with time. I did not say that they were not innovative and created the premise under which the genre operates today, which they did. And if you actually read what I wrote, instead of going "OMGZ n00b dnot he nkow Sabbath is teh M37ALZZZZ!!1!" you might find out that it made perfect sense. But then I guess basic comprehension is beyond you, so you have to resort to putting words in my mouth.
And NFU, once again, what do you know about my horizons? The one and only thing you know is that I don't like Yes. And when did I EVER say the genre itself sucks? I said all the indie I'd heard was shit. That doesn't even mean I've already decided the genre's useless, it doesn't even mean I've decided I've heard a fair portion of the genre. ALL it means is that I didn't like the bit that I heard. So why would it be such a fucking tragedy to throw out a couple of names and let me be on my way the horizons you're so sure are narrow? When you want to get into a genre, you don't start by taking a random sample of 50 bands and going through their discographies, you ask someone who likes it and has a decent library of quality acts.
But never mind. The statement you just made is more than enough. Thank you for finally being useful.