Dual and Triple Recto's

[lost_within]

Is there much sound difference between the two heads? There's like a £100 difference between them both, but it seems the dual is much more popular! Is there more gain in the triple?... And also are they both equally good for recording etc etc.. I want some opinions. Sorry if this comparison has been posted here before a bunch of times before.

Thanks in advance

 

[Jaymz]

Ive been told they are exactly the same gain/tone wise just the triple is hella louder with the extra 50w...I know its got another rectifier tube or something? But I guess it dosent effect the tone, £100 for the extra volume it seems.

I own a dual.

 

[musickey]

Personally i own a triple and one of my friends owns a dual, I cant tell a differance other than volume of course, but i dont get as microscopic as alot of people on here. I will tell you this for sure if your in a band that plays out the triple is a fucking beast live.

 

[Curran]

the triple is over kill in any situation. live and in the studio my dual is so violently loud I actually pull two of the 6L6's and one of the recto tubes AND run it in spongy on the tube rectifier setting and it is STILL painfully loud!!! HAHHAHAAH great amp though. save the 150usd, buy the dual and get a really nice ts-9 boutique pedal to run on the front of it during recording sessions

Love Curran

 

[Metaltastic]

Uh oh, tread lightly with that boutique TS9 talk, there's a sleeping giant named JBroll that's starting to get restless...

 

[TomiR]

A lot of Mesa players claim that the Triple has even more bass and that it is tighter when compared to the Dual.

If you go to Mesa's homepage, you can see that a lot of metal players use the Triple rather than the Dual.

But, I have never had the change to really compare the two, so I can't really say.

I own a 3channel Triple, my preeecious.(yep, it has 3 Rectifier tubes) A huge sounding amp indeed, has insane amounts of low end but it stays tight and responds to your picking very well. Won't hide your mistakes, since it has a very articulate tone. (depenging on your settings)

I was in the same situation as you, trying to decide which one to get, but I bought the Triple in the end and I couldn't be happier. But I don't think the Dual would dissapoint you either.

 

[lost_within]

I do play in a band. I want Immortal's "Sons of the northern darkness", or Hypocrisy "Abducted" type of sound. I also heard that the triple rec is more tight and dual can get very loose.. i wanna know why so many people go for the dual over the triple, the volume can't be the only thing.

 

[lost_within]

Also there's talk about the tube screamer, why is does everyone use one, what's special about it?

 

[lost_within]

A lot of Mesa players claim that the Triple has even more bass and that it is tighter when compared to the Dual.

If you go to Mesa's homepage, you can see that a lot of metal players use the Triple rather than the Dual.

But, I have never had the change to really compare the two, so I can't really say.

I own a 3channel Triple, my preeecious.(yep, it has 3 Rectifier tubes) A huge sounding amp indeed, has insane amounts of low end but it stays tight and responds to your picking very well. Won't hide your mistakes, since it has a very articulate tone. (depenging on your settings)

I was in the same situation as you, trying to decide which one to get, but I bought the Triple in the end and I couldn't be happier. But I don't think the Dual would dissapoint you either.

Yeah i was just going to mention about the triple having more metal players. I wonder if Brian and John from The black dahlia murder still use triple recs, I've seen them live twice in August and they used an Engl Powerball and 5150(i think). Don't know if they use rectos for recordings? Opeth used triple recs from Blackwater park onwards, as far as i know.

 

[HeadCrusher]

Thightens the low end for all if read on here. Hypocrisy used 5150s as well so you might wanna check that one out too for your tone. And if I'm not mistaken that Immortal record was produced by Peter so he might have used a 5150 on there is well.

 

[Exocaster]

The Triple is tighter and is a bit "bigger" sounding. (Like something really needs to sound bigger than a Dual Rec... ) That's just a function of its greater headroom and higher wattage.

If part of your tone involves driving your amp harder, though, the Triple's not the greatest choice for the above mentioned reasons.

...and am I the only one who thinks 5150s and Dual Recs aren't all that loud, comparatively? (Though they beat the hell out of anything Marshall has made in the past 20 years...) Or am I just a bit jaded in the volume department after owning a Mesa Mark IV A and a '76 Marshall JMP?

 

[lost_within]

Thightens the low end for all if read on here. Hypocrisy used 5150s as well so you might wanna check that one out too for your tone. And if I'm not mistaken that Immortal record was produced by Peter so he might have used a 5150 on there is well.

I do wanna try a 6505, but apparently it's all midrange, I like to crank up the treble..

 

[AStacy2]

A lot of people say that the Triple Rec is "lifeless" compared to a Dual Rec.

 

[Exocaster]

I do wanna try a 6505, but apparently it's all midrange, I like to crank up the treble..

Oh, you'll have no problem with the 5150/6505 series at all. They do have a prominent upper mid spike, and they're more mid-heavy than the Rectos are, but they're far from all midrange. They're certainly not a Mark-series Mesa or a Carvin Legacy in the "all mids" department. The 5150/6505 can be dialed in very bright. The 5150 II/6505+ is brighter as well.

 

[lost_within]

Oh, you'll have no problem with the 5150/6505 series at all. They do have a prominent upper mid spike, and they're more mid-heavy than the Rectos are, but they're far from all midrange. They're certainly not a Mark-series Mesa or a Carvin Legacy in the "all mids" department. The 5150/6505 can be dialed in very bright. The 5150 II/6505+ is brighter as well.

Hmm they're more than half the price of rectos though. Something is telling me not to like them. I really want to know if Bring me the horizon (no i don't like them, I just dig their guitar tone) used their 5150's in the last album, they have some songs on their myspace. It seems as if most metalcore bands are using 5150's, nothing wrong with that, but I just don't like half the tone of these bands.

 

[Jaymz]

Actually I thought when I was buying mine that more metal players used a dual from live/studio footage! I wanted a triple years ago because....well triple is more than dual, so it sounded better... and I saw lots of bands using duals! Maybe things have changed a bit? lol

 

[lost_within]

Actually I thought when I was buying mine that more metal players used a dual from live/studio footage! I wanted a triple years ago because....well triple is more than dual, so it sounded better... and I saw lots of bands using duals! Maybe things have changed a bit? lol

Devin Townsend has a dual

 

[2012]

the only models i have noticed a SIGNIFICANT difference in and by significant i mean enough of a difference to warrant actually paying more are the older 2-channel duals and the 2-channel rackmount duals.

 

[Metaltastic]

Hmm they're more than half the price of rectos though.

NOT IN AMERICA BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!

 

[Exocaster]

Hmm they're more than half the price of rectos though. Something is telling me not to like them. I really want to know if Bring me the horizon (no i don't like them, I just dig their guitar tone) used their 5150's in the last album, they have some songs on their myspace. It seems as if most metalcore bands are using 5150's, nothing wrong with that, but I just don't like half the tone of these bands.

IIRC, there's an In Flames Live In Gothenburg bootleg from the Colony tour that has better tone and recording quality than their official live album. I saw them four times pre-Reroute To Remain, and they had killer live tone with their 5150s.

My Dying Bride has a cool 5150 tone as well that's very atypical (as is pretty much everything about their production... very organic and "real" sounding, natural drums, probably no click track, good dynamics...). They run their 5150s into Greenback-loaded Marshall cabs. Very cool.

The 5150 is more capable than it's given credit for, I think. In a way, it's very much a one-trick pony, in that it really only excels at high gain tones, but it can cover a lot of ground within that spectrum. The tone controls are pretty responsive, and the resonance control adds an additional dimension to that.