Emperor

Korlich said:
Goddamn you´re stupid how can you seriously deny the fact that you´re giving money to a murderer?

i didn't deny it :confused: im sure faust doesn't think that because i bought itne i think it's good that he killed a guy. besides, he's done his time and is now a free man, why should he continue to be judged for actions he took over a decade ago? not that i'd care even if he was an unrepentant murderer, but still.
 
Moonlapse said:
I think Morningrise may have been made before the killing/church burning.

But as said, they basically owe to Samoth the fact that they got signed.

Ok I see that Moonie that makes sense. I also even think I saw an article where Mike condemned the church burnings, so I basically knew there had to be another reason.
 
Korlich said:
Goddamn you´re stupid how can you seriously deny the fact that you´re giving money to a murderer?

Theres huge fucking difference between expressing some political/religious views and killing a guy, how can u not see that?.

Oh wait you drink piss for a living why am I even bothering?

I'd buy Burzum records. Does this mean I support what Varg did (murder Euronymous) and what he allegedly did (burn churches)? No. I share some of his viewpoints on certain things, but I don't support him murdering Euronymous even though he couldn't defend himself.
 
I actually asked Mike this same question about 2 weeks ago about why Opeth thanks Ihsahn/Emperor because I was curious as well and he said that Ihsahn was one of the guys that helped get Opeth on the map....
 
Deadlift said:
Wow....are you ture?
*When you but Michael Jacksons album you support child abuse
*When you buy clothes from H&M you support Kate moss and drugs
*When you rent a movie by Michael Moore you clearly support the antibush fans
*When you buy a Elvis album you support drugs
*When you read Mein kampf by Hitler you clearly suppot nazis.

I might aswell stop watching tv becasue i may see someone on there that stole something once and than i would be supporting them.

:Smug:

Hahahaha hilarious ok I´ll take these one by one.

Michael Jackson has not been convicted of anything anything and there´s a thing called "Innocent till proven guilty". If you feel he is guilty then maybe you shouldn´t buy his records. Oh wait that´s right a lot ppl don´t anymore. I personally believe in the judgement system.

No you support a multinational corporation

No u support Michael Moore.

No u support Elvis family.

Reading "Mein kampf" doesn´t cost anything so there u go. buying it off Hitler if he was alive would be another thing.
 
Moonlapse said:
I think Morningrise may have been made before the killing/church burning.

But as said, they basically owe to Samoth the fact that they got signed.

Actually, it was several years before. The whole killing and church-burning business happened mostly between 1991 and 1993. Samoth burned a church in September 1992 and Faust killed a man in August the same year. And as we know, Morningrise wasn't released until 1996.
 
Ah, well so much for that. Regardless, they were punished by the state and I don't really see how Opeth, thanking the band as a whole, is condoning of anything. They still do owe Samoth, even if he helped burn a church, haha.
 
Korlich said:
Hahahaha hilarious ok I´ll take these one by one.

Michael Jackson has not been convicted of anything anything and there´s a thing called "Innocent till proven guilty". If you feel he is guilty then maybe you shouldn´t buy his records. Oh wait that´s right a lot ppl don´t anymore. I personally believe in the judgement system.

No you support a multinational corporation

No u support Michael Moore.

No u support Elvis family.

Reading "Mein kampf" doesn´t cost anything so there u go. buying it off Hitler if he was alive would be another thing.

I support a multinational corporation?
I what the hell do you think i do if i buy a Emperor album?
Elvis is dead? Damn..i better wait until the members of Emperor are dead and buy the albums after that.

So everybody that buy a Dissection album or attend to a concert with them support murder?

What`s wrong with you.... :ill:
 
Deadlift said:
I support a multinational corporation?
I what the hell do you think i do if i buy a Emperor album?
Elvis is dead? Damn..i better wait until the members of Emperor are dead and buy the albums after that.

So everybody that buy a Dissection album or attend to a concert with them support murder?

What`s wrong with you.... :ill:


Well no you don´t directly support murder, but u do support a black metal band which lifestyle includes murder, as part of their cool gr1m image or whatever. And I´m not saying I will jugde these persons for life maybe if I had reason to believe they had become better persons I wouldn´t mind buying their stuff.
 
Korlich said:
Well no you don´t directly support murder, but u do support a black metal band which lifestyle includes murder, as part of their cool gr1m image or whatever. And I´m not saying I will jugde these persons for life maybe if I had reason to believe they had become better persons I wouldn´t mind buying their stuff.

"lifestyle?" :lol: one band member murdering one guy makes the whole band's "lifestyle" being murderers? and if you think he murdered a guy because he thought it'd be good for his image you are retarded
 
polarity3 said:
"lifestyle?" :lol: one band member murdering one guy makes the whole band's "lifestyle" being murderers? and if you think he murdered a guy because he thought it'd be good for his image you are retarded

Yes, and the 10 000+ fans of Emperor should spend some time in prison too.

Meaningless to discuss with someone who already made up his mind and judging everybody for 1-2 persons actions.
 
polarity3 said:
"lifestyle?" :lol: one band member murdering one guy makes the whole band's "lifestyle" being murderers? and if you think he murdered a guy because he thought it'd be good for his image you are retarded

Look I don´t know why he murdered that guy and I´ve found out Faust didn´t know either, apparently the guy just looked at him the wrong or something and he decided to kill him. And Faust apparently doesn´t regret anything so fuck him.


And if you say numerous murders and church burnings by members of these early black metal bands had nothing to with their lifestyle then I seriously think u are the retarded one. wouldn´t u agree?

And yes to some extend I do think that these sick things worked building up their image as a lot of the old black metal fans especially from norway thought these things where cool.
 
How does buying an album endorse murder or arson? It's not like these things cost money, and that money came from album sales. Not at all.

You'd be surprised at how young those guys were when they did all that stuff. It's clear that they all grew out of it. It's been over ten years since that stuff took place.

In general, your logic is so flawed that I don't even know where to begin correcting you.
 
Korlich said:
Wow how ignorant can u be? When you buy albums by a man who killed a guy you´re supporting a murderer.

And don´t just tone this down / justify it by saying other things in the world are fucked up. Lamest excuse ever.

I´m not saying i won´t ever do anything wrong hell I´ve prolly done more bad things than most of the ppl on here, I just think it´s weird that ppl don´t seem to have any problem with the fact that these guys have done some serious fucked up shit. And by the way I´m not cristian I just don´t think anything justifies burning down churches.


no im not ignorant. but there is a BIG difference between enjoying someones music or art or whatever...and condoning their actions of their personal lives. its supporting the band...not murder. you are the ignorant one.
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
no im not ignorant. but there is a BIG difference between enjoying someones music or art or whatever...and condoning their actions of their personal lives. its supporting the band...not murder. you are the ignorant one.

This is pretty much what I was planning on posting, until I read this post.

So complete agreeance.