salty
Member
Got an email from Skinnys today. They said they have ordered it, and are expecting it within a few weeks.
Fuck Warner Australia. Fuck them in their stupid asses.
Fuck Warner Australia. Fuck them in their stupid asses.
Everyone here will like the new Dream Theater... Even Spawn
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Blitzkrieg
Master Exploder
Indeed. I am kinda glad I won't be able to get it soon though, coz I need to spend money on other things, and this album sounds too good to pass up if I saw it on the shelf!
Southy
Proud Brisbane Metaller
Listened again last night,
Endless Sacrifice ROCKS. That unison part, nay, the whole instrumental part from 5 minutes to 9 minutes rules
And James voice in the "Moments Wasted... ISOLAAATED" is incredible! I get a definate Steve Morse vibe from the solos in this song. Just the way he shreds and then bends the last note up.
In The Name of God is a certified classic. The vocal melody "Passion... Twisting faith into violence... In the name of god" and the end Whoa whoa whoa deserves 2.... no 3 The guitar scaley bit at about 8:30 is just incredible. I mean seriously, that is fuckin awesome
Also the quick singing in Dying Soul "Living a life in decadance" or whatever he sayd is cool. Would sound great through headphones I reckon. "A chance to fix this DYIINING Soul... THIS DYIIING SOOOUUUL" and the guitar part straight after. Man, theree is so much great shit on this album... Oooh, and what about the GLASS PRISON reprise. That kicks my ass.
And the rap part in Honour thy father. "Well Listen to me you ungrateful fool' So angry.
Blitzo... If you see the album, buy it. You will love it!
Endless Sacrifice ROCKS. That unison part, nay, the whole instrumental part from 5 minutes to 9 minutes rules
And James voice in the "Moments Wasted... ISOLAAATED" is incredible! I get a definate Steve Morse vibe from the solos in this song. Just the way he shreds and then bends the last note up.In The Name of God is a certified classic. The vocal melody "Passion... Twisting faith into violence... In the name of god" and the end Whoa whoa whoa deserves 2.... no 3
The guitar scaley bit at about 8:30 is just incredible. I mean seriously, that is fuckin awesomeAlso the quick singing in Dying Soul "Living a life in decadance" or whatever he sayd is cool. Would sound great through headphones I reckon. "A chance to fix this DYIINING Soul... THIS DYIIING SOOOUUUL" and the guitar part straight after. Man, theree is so much great shit on this album... Oooh, and what about the GLASS PRISON reprise. That kicks my ass.
And the rap part in Honour thy father. "Well Listen to me you ungrateful fool' So angry.
Blitzo... If you see the album, buy it. You will love it!
KoichCPA
Banned
KoichCPA
Banned
I haven't heard it, I'm just going by the fact you said it has rapping in it.
MC PORTNOY IN DAAAA HIIZZZOUSSE
MC PORTNOY IN DAAAA HIIZZZOUSSE
I've always thought that the best way to judge whether I like an album or not was to read what someone on the internet said about it 
But when I say rap, I dont mean as in Eminem or Fitty Cent (Man I hate that guy)..... I mean metal rap. Like fast singing. You seen the movie Rock Star? There is a scene in that where Mark Wahlburg is in the studio and he is pissed off because the band didnt want to use his songs, so he starts rapping instead of using the lyrics that were written for him. But eventually he sings the right words, and it sounds kinda rapp-ish anyway:
"I got a hunger burning way down deep in my soul, out of control, I'm on fiiiire.
Insane is the name of my game I'm like a runaway train running through your door yeah!"
That sort of rapping. Not......
"You're a motherfuckin whack I gotta get my dawgs from the hood and busta cap in yo measly ass befo my bitch's n ho's cum swingin YO"
But when I say rap, I dont mean as in Eminem or Fitty Cent (Man I hate that guy)..... I mean metal rap. Like fast singing. You seen the movie Rock Star? There is a scene in that where Mark Wahlburg is in the studio and he is pissed off because the band didnt want to use his songs, so he starts rapping instead of using the lyrics that were written for him. But eventually he sings the right words, and it sounds kinda rapp-ish anyway:
"I got a hunger burning way down deep in my soul, out of control, I'm on fiiiire.
Insane is the name of my game I'm like a runaway train running through your door yeah!"
That sort of rapping. Not......
"You're a motherfuckin whack I gotta get my dawgs from the hood and busta cap in yo measly ass befo my bitch's n ho's cum swingin YO"
KoichCPA
Banned
"prog fag boyz cmon make some noize"
I thought you said you didnt have the album?
How did you know that lyric is on there?
I thought you said you didnt have the album?
How did you know that lyric is on there?
KoichCPA
Banned
Blitzkrieg
Master Exploder
I will be picking this one up for sure at some point, sounds like one of the best releases of the year!
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DREAM THEATER - Train of Thought[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](Elektra)[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dream Theater warned us. The guys promised a recording so unrelentingly metallic, so punishing as to disprove skeptics who disparaged Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence as mere wankery. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Well, kids, sit back and prepare for Train of Thought. Dream Theater's latest offering not only reaffirms the quintet's legacy, it stretches its artistic muscle. In other words, it's business as usual for prog-metal's reigning superpower. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"As I Am" wastes no time in redefining the riff. Not since Kirk Hammett ignited a metal resurgence with "Enter Sandman" has a simple series of notes so invigorated heavy music. But unlike the Metallica fretster, John Petrucci remains a formidable player. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And the guitarist retains his crown with "As I Am," which oozes Sabbath sludge. Petrucci flirts with feedback before the band joins in for a fist-pumping powerhouse. Jordan Rudess seems conspicuously absent on first listen, but subsequent spins reveal the keyboardist present and accounted for. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Perhaps the reason Rudess seems scarce is his comparitively prominent role on Six Degrees which, while heavy, ventured sonically and compositionally outside the metal box. While Train of Thought is a heavier beast, it's not without risk. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Take "Vacant." By layering James LaBrie's voice over cello and piano, the piece is both spare and expansive. LaBrie cries out, "hey you, hey you/I'm right here/conscious fading/I can't get through." His impassioned pleas echo "Disappear, " the eerie finale from Six Degrees. "Vacant's" earthy viola only thickens the drama. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]But before volume takes a backseat to orchestration, a metal maelstrom pounds listeners senseless. "This Dying Soul" boasts what Mike Portnoy considers among the band's "sickest" riffs. The drummer speaks the truth. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Not only does the song explode with double-bass insanity, it features Petrucci and Rudess as tandem terrors. Known for doubling their respective parts, the musicians raise the bar even higher. Imagine Petrucci's Eastern harmonies from "Home" (Metropolis Part II: Scenes From A Memory) multiplied, and you still have no clue how heavy this is. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]References to Scenes don't stop there. Rudess revisits his theatrical piano filigree before Petrucci and Portnoy unleash some of the best power grooves Pantera never wrote. Then, out of nowhere, LaBrie lets loose lyrics that either pay tribute to "Blackened" or steal shamelessly from the Metallica classic. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Instead of "blackend is the end/winter it will send/throwing all you see/into obscurity," we get "come to me my friend/I'll help this torture end/let your ego go/you can't go through this alone." On closer inspection, the song seems a lyrical cousin to "The Glass Prison" from Six Degrees. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Then Portnoy, unafraid of the most extreme percussive expression, lays down - get ready, kids - prog blast beats! OK, so the sticksman's answer to black-metal skinblasting won't make Nick Barker or Pete Sandoval quake in their leather-studded boots. But the Dimmu Borgir-Morbid Angel drummers may rethink Dream Theater's heaviosity (Spinal Tap, anyone?) [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]After the aural roller-coaster that is "This Dying Soul," listeners get a breather with "Endless Sacrifice." But the respite proves brief. Acoustic guitar succumbs to its amplified id and Petrucci unleashes yet more heavy riffing. In fact, the composition seems to overtake its composers by turning almost as ambitious as "This Dying Soul." [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nowhere is this more apparent than when keyboard and guitar take a comic left turn. Those familiar with Rudess' ragtime fills know what I'm talking about. Perhaps to counter the playful diversion comes Petrucci, shredding arpeggios as if still in the '80s. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In fact, Petrucci shreds with such unrestrained abandon, one would think he went without playing for years, craving his beloved six-string. The guitarist's ferocity is matched only by Portnoy's attack and LaBrie's surprisingly strong vocals - surprising because Train of Thought was recorded following a lengthy tour, not to mention LaBrie's myriad side projects. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Where these guys find the time to tackle their own material is beyond me. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Elsewhere, "Honor Thy Father" is one angry barnburner - both musically and lyrically. Sounding like an outtake from Awake, the song is 10 minutes and 14 seconds of familial betrayal and angst set to music. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Those who doubted Dream Theater's ability to channel raw emotion will be surprised. But perhaps they shouldn't be, considering the inner turmoil powering "Burning My Soul," "Take Away My Pain" and other vintage material.[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]As with the strongest Dream Theater instrumentals, "Stream of Consciousness" sets a mood and never relents. Neither as immediate as "The Ytse Jam" nor as addictive as "Erotomania," Train of Thought's instrumental jewel holds its own. It takes a few spins to fully appreciate, but repeated listening prove rewarding. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Closing this monstrous platter is "In The Name of God." Alternating power grooves and introspective passages eventually succumb to something otherworldly, anchored by John Myung's bass (finally mixed higher this time around!) and spacy keyboards, not to mention LaBrie's tireless throat. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When the final note fades, listeners are left exhausted and exhilirated. For they've experienced not Dream Theater's best work, but its heaviest in years. Portnoy wasn't kidding when he vowed to record a metal masterpiece. While falling slightly short of that goal - Dream Theater's more than a simple metal band - the musicians have added seven molten nuggets to their vast catalog. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]At once complex yet simple, Train of Thought thunders forward as among the year's best releases. -A. Lee Graham lgraham@airmail.net[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1/2[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](Elektra)[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dream Theater warned us. The guys promised a recording so unrelentingly metallic, so punishing as to disprove skeptics who disparaged Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence as mere wankery. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Well, kids, sit back and prepare for Train of Thought. Dream Theater's latest offering not only reaffirms the quintet's legacy, it stretches its artistic muscle. In other words, it's business as usual for prog-metal's reigning superpower. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"As I Am" wastes no time in redefining the riff. Not since Kirk Hammett ignited a metal resurgence with "Enter Sandman" has a simple series of notes so invigorated heavy music. But unlike the Metallica fretster, John Petrucci remains a formidable player. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And the guitarist retains his crown with "As I Am," which oozes Sabbath sludge. Petrucci flirts with feedback before the band joins in for a fist-pumping powerhouse. Jordan Rudess seems conspicuously absent on first listen, but subsequent spins reveal the keyboardist present and accounted for. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Perhaps the reason Rudess seems scarce is his comparitively prominent role on Six Degrees which, while heavy, ventured sonically and compositionally outside the metal box. While Train of Thought is a heavier beast, it's not without risk. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Take "Vacant." By layering James LaBrie's voice over cello and piano, the piece is both spare and expansive. LaBrie cries out, "hey you, hey you/I'm right here/conscious fading/I can't get through." His impassioned pleas echo "Disappear, " the eerie finale from Six Degrees. "Vacant's" earthy viola only thickens the drama. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]But before volume takes a backseat to orchestration, a metal maelstrom pounds listeners senseless. "This Dying Soul" boasts what Mike Portnoy considers among the band's "sickest" riffs. The drummer speaks the truth. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Not only does the song explode with double-bass insanity, it features Petrucci and Rudess as tandem terrors. Known for doubling their respective parts, the musicians raise the bar even higher. Imagine Petrucci's Eastern harmonies from "Home" (Metropolis Part II: Scenes From A Memory) multiplied, and you still have no clue how heavy this is. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]References to Scenes don't stop there. Rudess revisits his theatrical piano filigree before Petrucci and Portnoy unleash some of the best power grooves Pantera never wrote. Then, out of nowhere, LaBrie lets loose lyrics that either pay tribute to "Blackened" or steal shamelessly from the Metallica classic. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Instead of "blackend is the end/winter it will send/throwing all you see/into obscurity," we get "come to me my friend/I'll help this torture end/let your ego go/you can't go through this alone." On closer inspection, the song seems a lyrical cousin to "The Glass Prison" from Six Degrees. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Then Portnoy, unafraid of the most extreme percussive expression, lays down - get ready, kids - prog blast beats! OK, so the sticksman's answer to black-metal skinblasting won't make Nick Barker or Pete Sandoval quake in their leather-studded boots. But the Dimmu Borgir-Morbid Angel drummers may rethink Dream Theater's heaviosity (Spinal Tap, anyone?) [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]After the aural roller-coaster that is "This Dying Soul," listeners get a breather with "Endless Sacrifice." But the respite proves brief. Acoustic guitar succumbs to its amplified id and Petrucci unleashes yet more heavy riffing. In fact, the composition seems to overtake its composers by turning almost as ambitious as "This Dying Soul." [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nowhere is this more apparent than when keyboard and guitar take a comic left turn. Those familiar with Rudess' ragtime fills know what I'm talking about. Perhaps to counter the playful diversion comes Petrucci, shredding arpeggios as if still in the '80s. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In fact, Petrucci shreds with such unrestrained abandon, one would think he went without playing for years, craving his beloved six-string. The guitarist's ferocity is matched only by Portnoy's attack and LaBrie's surprisingly strong vocals - surprising because Train of Thought was recorded following a lengthy tour, not to mention LaBrie's myriad side projects. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Where these guys find the time to tackle their own material is beyond me. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Elsewhere, "Honor Thy Father" is one angry barnburner - both musically and lyrically. Sounding like an outtake from Awake, the song is 10 minutes and 14 seconds of familial betrayal and angst set to music. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Those who doubted Dream Theater's ability to channel raw emotion will be surprised. But perhaps they shouldn't be, considering the inner turmoil powering "Burning My Soul," "Take Away My Pain" and other vintage material.[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]As with the strongest Dream Theater instrumentals, "Stream of Consciousness" sets a mood and never relents. Neither as immediate as "The Ytse Jam" nor as addictive as "Erotomania," Train of Thought's instrumental jewel holds its own. It takes a few spins to fully appreciate, but repeated listening prove rewarding. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Closing this monstrous platter is "In The Name of God." Alternating power grooves and introspective passages eventually succumb to something otherworldly, anchored by John Myung's bass (finally mixed higher this time around!) and spacy keyboards, not to mention LaBrie's tireless throat. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When the final note fades, listeners are left exhausted and exhilirated. For they've experienced not Dream Theater's best work, but its heaviest in years. Portnoy wasn't kidding when he vowed to record a metal masterpiece. While falling slightly short of that goal - Dream Theater's more than a simple metal band - the musicians have added seven molten nuggets to their vast catalog. [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]At once complex yet simple, Train of Thought thunders forward as among the year's best releases. -A. Lee Graham lgraham@airmail.net[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
salty
Member
On closer inspection, the song seems a lyrical cousin to "The Glass Prison" from Six Degrees.
Seems a lyrical cousin? Its the next part of that song lol
Seems a lyrical cousin? Its the next part of that song lol
Indeed. I wonder if he missed THE FUCKIN RIFF from the Glass Prison.
Still, a pretty decent review all the same
Still, a pretty decent review all the same
Blitzkrieg
Master Exploder
KoichCPA
Banned
You suck Jordy, at least hear it first.
It has rapping, rapping is gay
Unless it's in a Justin Timberlake song, in which case it's totally bitchin.
It has rapping, rapping is gay
Unless it's in a Justin Timberlake song, in which case it's totally bitchin.
Blitzkrieg
Master Exploder
Southy
Proud Brisbane Metaller
I never noticed the rap bit.....hmm I guess there is no real rap bit to speak of, maybe a SPOKEN part, but no bloody rap
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