fat burning pills

[General Zod]

How does anyone really know if mass intake of protein works for them? In other words, how do you know whether the gains you've made wouldn't be exactly the same without added protein intake? Same applies to creatine.

Alot of people turn to supplements like protein and creatine once they've hit a plateau. So, when it gets them passed that plateau, the correlation is evident. In addition, study after study has shown the benefits of these two supps in the gain of muscle mass.

By the way, far be it for me to tell someone not to do something that works for them. However, I would say doing 50 - 60 push-ups is of minimal benefit, aside from increasing the number of push-ups you can do. I've never read anything that suggested working beyond 12 reps is good for anything besides endurance. I'm sure doing that many push-ups will have some cardio benefit, but it isn't ideal for building your chest.

In the end, if your happy with the results you're getting, that's all that matters. I suppose I just try to approach exercising as efficiently as possible. I fin that it's real easy to get burned out on working out when you have to do long workouts.
Zod

 

[dorian gray]

Anabolic steroids work well

 

[JayKeeley]

By the way, far be it for me to tell someone not to do something that works for them. However, I would say doing 50 - 60 push-ups is of minimal benefit, aside from increasing the number of push-ups you can do.

If you can squeeze out 12 pushups and stick to that number, you're always always going to exert the same effort to get those 12 pushups done. If you increase the number of pushups you do each time, the easier they get -- therefore I assume you're building up strength?

Once you can do 100 pushups, the first 12 are a breeze. By the way, I do about 50 pushups (on my days off from the gym) but I give myself 10 seconds break in between each set.

Also, I'm considering getting those navy seals Perfect Pushup handles that rotate. Doing regular pushups feels odd around the wrists and elbows because your body really shouldn't be going up and down like that, with your arms static. That said, $40 for a pair of rotating wheels?

This whole industry is just about constant grifting. Whether it be magic potions or bowflex equipment. Even my goddamn gym -- every time I go, I'm hounded by some gym instructor to sign up for private sessions. It's so offputting, they come up to you when you've got your headphones on and so you have to stop halfway through and listen to the whole sales pitch before politely telling them to fuck off.

 

[dorian gray]

This whole industry is just about constant grifting. Whether it be magic potions or bowflex equipment. Even my goddamn gym -- every time I go, I'm hounded by some gym instructor to sign up for private sessions. It's so offputting, they come up to you when you've got your headphones on and so you have to stop halfway through and listen to the whole sales pitch before politely telling them to fuck off.

TRUTH. I've felt this way since the late 80s when my older brother was really into lifting and I would read his magazines. Even at 12 years old, I knew it was the same old shit every issue - dudes who take anabolics and claim you can look that way by doing plyometrics.

 

[Reign in Acai]

Also, I'm considering getting those navy seals Perfect Pushup handles that rotate. Doing regular pushups feels odd around the wrists and elbows because your body really shouldn't be going up and down like that, with your arms static. That said, $40 for a pair of rotating wheels?

Those are for faggoths. I own two plastic push-up handles that cost all of 3 bucks. I use them so my hands don't get dirty. God Forbid!

 

[JayKeeley]

Those are for faggoths.

Yeah, but the ad says: "designed by a Navy Seal"!!! They had me at hello!

I own two plastic push-up handles that cost all of 3 bucks. I use them so my hands don't get dirty. God Forbid!

I'd at least just like to try the twisty things, just to see what it feels like. But yeah, I'm sure it's a gimmick at $40 a pair. You'd think you could just make them quite easily yourself with a stick, piece of string, and some gum.

 

[JayKeeley]

TRUTH. I've felt this way since the late 80s when my older brother was really into lifting and I would read his magazines. Even at 12 years old, I knew it was the same old shit every issue - dudes who take anabolics and claim you can look that way by doing plyometrics.

Preying on people's inferiority complex = greatest business plan in history

I don't even think I have many self-confidence issues, but I have to be honest, watching those TV ad's for the new bowflex makes me want to order one. The chick in the bowflex ads is a beauty! It's phenomenal marketing.

Also, I love the BEFORE and AFTER shots for diet infomercials for women:

BEFORE PICTURE = fat, pasty white, told to droop their shoulders, stick their gut out

AFTER PICTURE = tanned golden brown(!), tits have doubled in size, different lighting, hair and make up done, different posture

LOL

 

[General Zod]

If you can squeeze out 12 pushups and stick to that number, you're always always going to exert the same effort to get those 12 pushups done. If you increase the number of pushups you do each time, the easier they get -- therefore I assume you're building up strength?

I suspect you're building more endurance than muscle. I can't say I've ever seen anyone advocate working beyond the 12 rep range for building muscle/strength. High rep ranges are for endurance. And I can't say I've ever seen anyone recommend doing more than 20 reps of anything (even for endurance).

Although you can do 10 reps of 100 or 100 reps of 10 and lift a total tonnage of 1,000 pounds, no one would advocate 100 reps of 10. Aside from it being a less effective way to build muscle/strength, doing 10 reps of 100 is going to get mentally exhausting over time, leading you get burned out on working out.

By the way, I do about 50 pushups (on my days off from the gym) but I give myself 10 seconds break in between each set.

Off days are called "off days" for a reason. The process by which your body builds muscle, requires rest. You shouldn't do anything, except maybe light cardio on off days.

This whole industry is just about constant grifting. Whether it be magic potions or bowflex equipment. Even my goddamn gym -- every time I go, I'm hounded by some gym instructor to sign up for private sessions. It's so offputting, they come up to you when you've got your headphones on and so you have to stop halfway through and listen to the whole sales pitch before politely telling them to fuck off.

No doubt. 98% of what they sell in the vitamin store is snake oil.

Zod

 

[JayKeeley]

I suspect you're building more endurance than muscle. I can't say I've ever seen anyone advocate working beyond the 12 rep range for building muscle/strength. High rep ranges are for endurance.

I see. But number of reps aside, since the act of doing a pushup is to lift your own bodyweight, aren't you at some level therefore 'body lifting'? I guess to your point though, in order to build muscle through pushups, you would have to gradually increase the weight by placing heavy objects on your back.

One thing I like about pushups is that they kickstart your heart & adrenaline flow. If I'm on the bike and I can't get my heart rate up (through dire fucking boredom of having to do cardio), then I jump off and do 10 pushups, get back on the bike, and repeat 3 times until I hit, say, 150 BPM and keep it that way through pedalling.

Although you can do 10 reps of 100 or 100 reps of 10 and lift a total tonnage of 1,000 pounds, no one would advocate 100 reps of 10.

Makes sense.

Aside from it being a less effective way to build muscle/strength, doing 10 reps of 100 is going to get mentally exhausting over time, leading you get burned out on working out.

So both way you lose? Or are you saying that you keep to 10 reps but just increase the weight over time. Still, it still doesn't prevent from becoming mentally exhausted does it?

Off days are called "off days" for a reason. The process by which your body builds muscle, requires rest.

I know. I think I have a hard time with feeling guilty if I'm not doing something active. I want my gains to come sooner, but I suppose I realize it's all counterproductive.

No doubt. 98% of what they sell in the vitamin store is snake oil.

And really expensive too.

 

[General Zod]

I see. But number of reps aside, since the act of doing a pushup is to lift your own bodyweight, aren't you at some level therefore 'body lifting'? I guess to your point though, in order to build muscle through pushups, you would have to gradually increase the weight by placing heavy objects on your back.

Exactly. Push ups are a solid warm up exercise, but not a chest exercise that you would want to be one of the pillars of your chest routine.

One thing I like about pushups is that they kickstart your heart & adrenaline flow. If I'm on the bike and I can't get my heart rate up (through dire fucking boredom of having to do cardio), then I jump off and do 10 pushups, get back on the bike, and repeat 3 times until I hit, say, 150 BPM and keep it that way through pedalling.

Using as a cardio device sounds like it's working for you. However, I wouldn't do push ups following chest days, even as a cardio tool, as you want your chest muscles to get full rest.

So both way you lose? Or are you saying that you keep to 10 reps but just increase the weight over time. Still, it still doesn't prevent from becoming mentally exhausted does it?

Yes, increase the weight. In general, it's a good idea to work in the 6 - 10 rep range and increase your weight when you can do more the 10 reps. So, most often, you're doing single digit reps, which I don't mind as mentally exhausting as trying to do 50 reps.

Zod

 

[Reign in Acai]

So I purchased a monthly supply of tuna (60 cans). The extra 76 grams of protein a day should do wonders for my fuda.

 

[JayKeeley]

I love Tuna, but I realized recently that the Tuna in a packet is less "metallic" tasting than the dolphin feces that comes in a can. But then it's also more expensive. Anyway, mix it with mayo and away you go.

 

[Reign in Acai]

Fuck mayo mate. I eat tuna in the same fashion that I would Susperia's dingy flaps of feminism. With two in the plinko, one in the stinko, and a flopping sashimi twist to soak in the sensation of menstruation.

Do you follow?!?

 

[JayKeeley]

with ketchup and steak sauce?

 

[J.]

i eat tuna out of the can a lot. i also eat those to-go packs with relish, mayo and crackers. i just worry about the amount of mercury. but yeah, tuna benefits outweigh the bad.

i also eat lots of nuts (peanuts, almonds) which help the heart with essential fats and protein. check it out: http://www.peanut-institute.org/PDF/10ReasonsPeanuts2006.pdf

i just need to lay off sugar, which is a weakness. i dont work out at all (though im hoping to turn my garage into a workout area...i hate gyms), but i like running and walking long distances.

"eating good" these days is just too hard with some people saying things are good and others saying they are bad. also, some foods prevent this disease, but may contribute to that one.

 

[Reign in Acai]

Stiff-Legged Deadlifts fucking rule!!!

 

[Krilons Resa]

lol

 

[Reign in Acai]

Though this is the one exercise where I wish I owned a pair of gloves. Oh well, Chicks dig callouses, and by chicks I mean real fat ones who have no other choice.

 

[Reign in Acai]

Hey doomnegar, found a cool website.

http://www.t-nation.com


Have I ever mentioned how much ass Morrigan kicks?!?!

 

[Tide In Mind Out]

I love Tuna, but I realized recently that the Tuna in a packet is less "metallic" tasting than the dolphin feces that comes in a can. But then it's also more expensive. Anyway, mix it with mayo and away you go.

speaking of tuna in packets, these are freakin' awesome! it comes with more than enough for a dinner. but they are kinda expensive, about 2.50 a pop. but sooo good