Do you believe in fate? Why or why not? What is your idea of how time and purpose work, or, if you believe they do, work together?
Fate?
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CladInDarkness
Under A Blackened Sky
Nope, I believe in freewill. I choose what i want to do. If I want to go to bed now I will, because i'm sleepy so I think I will. Good night!!!!!!!!!
Lina
kickass elizabethan style
I absolutely do not believe in fate. this is one of these silly concepts like "god looking out for us" that humans make up to (a) feel important in the cosmos and (b) explain coincidences, good luck, bad luck, etc.
transfixed
an eternal gaze
Originally posted by Soul4Raziel
I think if you believe in fate then you may just go through life waiting for things to happen, life is too short to sit around waiting for things to happen, I WANT TO LIVE!!
couldn't have said it better myself
~Zeanra~
Tandtroll
Nope, I don't. I don't like the idea that it's said what's going to happen to me and in my life and I have to wait all that to happen. Like Soul4Raziel said, I want to live
MetalManCPA
Papa Opeth
I'm not really sure - I think about this on occassion.
Ever get to an intersection, and wonder how your life would change (or if it would change) if you took a left instead of a right? Does that change the outcome of your life, or no matter what happens, it was all predestined?
I've never resolved the concept of fate in my mind, so my answer in my belief of fate is still undecided.
Ever get to an intersection, and wonder how your life would change (or if it would change) if you took a left instead of a right? Does that change the outcome of your life, or no matter what happens, it was all predestined?
I've never resolved the concept of fate in my mind, so my answer in my belief of fate is still undecided.
i believe there is something like fate. call it your "will", call it your genes, call it your god. i believe my actions are controlled by my heritage of genes plus my experiences in my life. you know, i will be curious the first time i touch the hot oven, next time i won't touch because of my experience. but all i do derives from something. of course i can force myself to do something (touching the oven once again), but even this will be result of my current situation and how my genes tell me to react. without a strong willpower i won't succeed. and willpower is defined in my genes and my experience.
i don't like the thought either, to be controlled by something, but i think that's the way it is...
some of you might think, well then why don't you just sit around and wait for something to happen? well, it's obvious to me: it's in my genes
i just have to eraze the thought of not being capable of controlling what i do.
but... i first have to define "I" and "Me". this was done before... is it my brain? is it my genes? is it my experience? it is the sum of all. and therefore i cannot say i'm controlled by someone ELSE, i'm fully controlled by ME, by my body, and i simply can't do anything about it. that makes it easier to accept. in fact i (my body) controls my actions, mut they are predictable nevertheless (like what some would call "fate")...
uff i hope someone understands...
i don't like the thought either, to be controlled by something, but i think that's the way it is...
some of you might think, well then why don't you just sit around and wait for something to happen? well, it's obvious to me: it's in my genes
i just have to eraze the thought of not being capable of controlling what i do.but... i first have to define "I" and "Me". this was done before... is it my brain? is it my genes? is it my experience? it is the sum of all. and therefore i cannot say i'm controlled by someone ELSE, i'm fully controlled by ME, by my body, and i simply can't do anything about it. that makes it easier to accept. in fact i (my body) controls my actions, mut they are predictable nevertheless (like what some would call "fate")...
uff i hope someone understands...
fate....... everything is only going to happen one way. You may be able to have an effect on what happens in the future by doing something now, but either way, only ONE thing is going to happen..... time only takes one path, not 300000. Therefore fate must exist..... it doesnt hvae to be set in stone in some magical palace, but theres just one way everything is going to happen. will a teacher pop a quiz or not today... either way, whichver one happens happens, and that's fate
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Don't see the Fnord
Eclipse
Red Knight
mine opinion goes close to what vultureculture said:
but what is it?
I guess it's in between what people have thought it was: god , fate, power of the will.
I think that people within themselves create some rules according to which they want to live, and where they want to get. The way they can stick with their own rules, and believe in it, will determin their success.
Yes, I believe in God. I can't tell you what I understand under that term. And I don't know if he really exists outside of my mind. But I believe in him, and that's why I live both under his protection. Respecting him, is respecting myself and life in general, and always pursueing the good things, and not give up.. If I don't, I guess things will go wrong for me then. But so far? They go very well, and I'm grateful, and happy.
but what is it?
I guess it's in between what people have thought it was: god , fate, power of the will.
I think that people within themselves create some rules according to which they want to live, and where they want to get. The way they can stick with their own rules, and believe in it, will determin their success.
Yes, I believe in God. I can't tell you what I understand under that term. And I don't know if he really exists outside of my mind. But I believe in him, and that's why I live both under his protection. Respecting him, is respecting myself and life in general, and always pursueing the good things, and not give up.. If I don't, I guess things will go wrong for me then. But so far? They go very well, and I'm grateful, and happy.
mindflesh
Rainbow Satan Overflow
I believe in randomness and free will. Everything we do may have an impact on something completely different - this and our will determine what will happen... I don't believe in any divine or supernatural fate.
neither i do. well... it's just predictable.
if you believe in the urknall (big bang?) theory, then every bit of matter derived from one point in the galaxy. if you knew the state of every atom and the even smaller parts at that time, you would be able to calculate where it's going after the big bang. you just could calculate every position and property of every single bit of matter at any given time... this naturally is far too complex, but in theory it's possible. humans just can't realize they live in a predetermined environment, because it's too complex to fully handle it singleminded.
however, when someone comes up with a new theory of how the universe began, well, i'm fucked up with my idea... the funny thing is that i don't want to believe this, but when i make up my mind like now, there seems to be no other conclusion for me (with my limited information)
if you believe in the urknall (big bang?) theory, then every bit of matter derived from one point in the galaxy. if you knew the state of every atom and the even smaller parts at that time, you would be able to calculate where it's going after the big bang. you just could calculate every position and property of every single bit of matter at any given time... this naturally is far too complex, but in theory it's possible. humans just can't realize they live in a predetermined environment, because it's too complex to fully handle it singleminded.
however, when someone comes up with a new theory of how the universe began, well, i'm fucked up with my idea... the funny thing is that i don't want to believe this, but when i make up my mind like now, there seems to be no other conclusion for me (with my limited information)
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i've always thought of life as like a cd being played for the first time, all the music is already stored on it even though you may not have heard it all, all you are aware of is that at which point you have reached and that which you have already heard, and so life continues on the spiral until reaching the end and all the music has been heard, i also like to think of different times of my life as different songs, i think im at the start of the third song right now, hopefully it'll be better than the last, it was a bit repetitive
Originally posted by VultureCulture
i believe there is something like fate. call it your "will", call it your genes, call it your god. i believe my actions are controlled by my heritage of genes plus my experiences in my life. you know, i will be curious the first time i touch the hot oven, next time i won't touch because of my experience. but all i do derives from something. of course i can force myself to do something (touching the oven once again), but even this will be result of my current situation and how my genes tell me to react. without a strong willpower i won't succeed. and willpower is defined in my genes and my experience.
i don't like the thought either, to be controlled by something, but i think that's the way it is...
some of you might think, well then why don't you just sit around and wait for something to happen? well, it's obvious to me: it's in my genes
but... i first have to define "I" and "Me". this was done before... is it my brain? is it my genes? is it my experience? it is the sum of all. and therefore i cannot say i'm controlled by someone ELSE, i'm fully controlled by ME, by my body, and i simply can't do anything about it. that makes it easier to accept. in fact i (my body) controls my actions, mut they are predictable nevertheless (like what some would call "fate")...
Beautiful! I was about to post something like these two posts, but I see that I dont have to.
Unless someone has a time machine, everyone can only make one choice in any given situation at any given time. Since time only cycles through that given moment once, time itself is linear. There is one beginning, and one end. Because of the circumstances of the situation we may be in at that given time, we will only make one choice, and will always make one choice. It is the way we choose, and unless something disrupted the circumstances of the situation (a time machine) we would still make that choice. So what we see as choices really aren't choices, but what our beings will always do.
I see it like a maze. There is only one way through it, even though it looks like there are many branches.
Misanthrope
Latin, NOT Mexican.
Emm...no
I do not believe in fate, i have no spirituality, i have no believes, i got nothing....i sometimes dream how it would be like to be a more spiritual person
I do not believe in fate, i have no spirituality, i have no believes, i got nothing....i sometimes dream how it would be like to be a more spiritual person
Sullen Jester
Corporate Executive
Another question is, if you knew your fate, would you accept it? Would you try to change it, try to alter it?
musicholic
Procrastinate now!
Thats kind of like hitting the "hyperspace" button on some computer games. It can get you out of trouble but where you land could be even worse. I guess I would stay where I'm at unless things really sucked.
Originally posted by moonchild
i've always thought of life as like a cd being played for the first time, all the music is already stored on it even though you may not have heard it all, all you are aware of is that at which point you have reached and that which you have already heard, and so life continues on the spiral until reaching the end and all the music has been heard, i also like to think of different times of my life as different songs, i think im at the start of the third song right now, hopefully it'll be better than the last, it was a bit repetitive
i like that metaphor... life is a cd... hopefully mine is not just an EP though
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