Frontiers

Had you made it clear before, I wouldn't have carried on, but you hadn't made it clear. Now that this is all cleared up, I think it's a more appropriate time to say that your avatar, Kazahana, kicks ass.
 
umm piracy is wrong, but we as paying fans, do have the right to hear a track, Symphony X has the choice to either puyt it on the track or not... once they do anyone who buys anything from them deserves and has the right to listen to a track! Anyone (IN Canada especially) who has all of Symphony X's Stuff, has paid over 100$, its like 32 $ a cd down here, + To order most of them we have to wait 6 months ro recieve them and put down a 20$ deposit... So I think uif we're willing to waste our time and money on this band ansd forum (Just so you know its a good waste lol ;) ) We do have the right to hear a track... As for Burning a whole cd selling them, or anything...I'm in agreement GO AWAY! Otherwise, one song which even some of the most hardcore symphony X fans have never heard deserve to hear it!
 
$100 a cd? Thats more retarted than- I should just stop right there, before I get myself into some deep deep shit. But seriously! That's retarted! How far from the border do you live? Oh wait. You're in Quebec. That's far from the U.S. border, isn't it? Okay. My idea wouldn't work. I would've just said cross the border and buy your cd's here, for like 15 bucks a cd.
 
(Double post)
I love how a thread about a Chapman Stick turns into a conversation between Lars Ulrich and the maker of Napster.
 
proulxski said:
umm piracy is wrong, but we as paying fans, do have the right to hear a track, Symphony X has the choice to either puyt it on the track or not... once they do anyone who buys anything from them deserves and has the right to listen to a track! Anyone (IN Canada especially) who has all of Symphony X's Stuff, has paid over 100$, its like 32 $ a cd down here, + To order most of them we have to wait 6 months ro recieve them and put down a 20$ deposit... So I think uif we're willing to waste our time and money on this band ansd forum (Just so you know its a good waste lol ;) ) We do have the right to hear a track... As for Burning a whole cd selling them, or anything...I'm in agreement GO AWAY! Otherwise, one song which even some of the most hardcore symphony X fans have never heard deserve to hear it!
http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/lang/eng.htm

Where? I don't see it.
 
ptah knemu said:
$100 a cd? Thats more retarted than- I should just stop right there, before I get myself into some deep deep shit. But seriously! That's retarted! How far from the border do you live? Oh wait. You're in Quebec. That's far from the U.S. border, isn't it? Okay. My idea wouldn't work. I would've just said cross the border and buy your cd's here, for like 15 bucks a cd.

Montreal is less than an hour from the NY border. Quebec City is a couple hours more.

Deposit? Dude, order online!!!

I can't believe it's been 3 years, and everyone hasn't found a way to hear this song yet!?!?
 
kazahana said:

Hahahaha.

Why don't you buy CD's online? You'd break even or maybe even pay less with the Canadian exchange rate.

Depending on the store I go to, I sometimes have to put a $5 deposit on a CD. It's just a store policy to make sure that whoever is buying the CD will actually come and pick it up so it's not sitting in their backstock forever.
 
kazahana said:

That's the best reference I've ever, seen since the introduction of Adam West as Mayor of Quahog in Family Guy. I tip my hat to you, Kazahana.

Platinum Maze said:
Montreal is less than an hour from the NY border. Quebec City is a couple hours more.

Deposit? Dude, order online!!!

I can't believe it's been 3 years, and everyone hasn't found a way to hear this song yet!?!?

It's not that people haven't found a way to get it, but that it's that they've all been way too busy.
 
yeh exactly, and ordering online? Yeh right, Credit card and shit, I tried once and my money magically disapeared abd I never got my copy of Twilight in Olympus... If they would just have them in stores, and on the shelf, and able to order like that! Waiting 6 months and putting down a 20$ deposit for an album is a pain in the ass... Internet is just as much of a pain in the ass, if I can't go to the store and buy it or recieve it in 2 weeks from ordering...Well there is a problem! If the japenese version was for sale at the store id buy it right away! but its not, so for the money I have dished out on this godly band, you think id get at least a deal somewhere? like being able to heard Frontiers :P
 
If Quebec is so close to the border, (Which I didnt know and i appologize for my lack of attention to Canadian geography.) then why not just go once in a while across the border to a music shop and buy your cd's there for cheap? Thats what I'd do. But then again, I'm not you guys, so w/e. It's just an Idea.
 
Ptah, 15 $ across the border in Americain Currency... That still comes out to like 30 $ canadian dude! It would be just a greater waste of money lol, you see how high gas prices are going now days?

We are close to the border, I'm saying if you wanna get all the cd's (the whole symphony X collection) its way over 100$... The Odyssey + V;The NEw Mythology Suite comes out to around 68 $ after tax... thats 2 of their albums one more and we hit the 120 $ range

PS: its not any cheeaper for us to go acorss the boarder, I gotta get Americain $$$$ so I go to the bank and exchange my 30 for your 15... Its no cheaper, if you come to Canada and use us dollars its 15 around, but if you change into canadian currency its around 30... so in the end yeh its no cheaper lol
 
proulxski said:
yeh exactly, and ordering online? Yeh right, Credit card and shit, I tried once and my money magically disapeared abd I never got my copy of Twilight in Olympus... If they would just have them in stores, and on the shelf, and able to order like that! Waiting 6 months and putting down a 20$ deposit for an album is a pain in the ass... Internet is just as much of a pain in the ass, if I can't go to the store and buy it or recieve it in 2 weeks from ordering...Well there is a problem! If the japenese version was for sale at the store id buy it right away! but its not, so for the money I have dished out on this godly band, you think id get at least a deal somewhere? like being able to heard Frontiers :P

Can't you check if some of the canadian stores have online shop or something then you just order by cash on delivery and you don't need credit card.
 
proulxski said:
yeh exactly, and ordering online? Yeh right, Credit card and shit, I tried once and my money magically disapeared abd I never got my copy of Twilight in Olympus... If they would just have them in stores, and on the shelf, and able to order like that! Waiting 6 months and putting down a 20$ deposit for an album is a pain in the ass... Internet is just as much of a pain in the ass, if I can't go to the store and buy it or recieve it in 2 weeks from ordering...Well there is a problem! If the japenese version was for sale at the store id buy it right away!
lol!
You're either very unlucky, or chose a really bad place to buy CDs. It's not as if there's a shortage of genuine and secure online retailers. I've certainly never had a problem, even when ordering from Japan. I suggest you follow up that bad transaction since you do have rights in that area ;)

I also recommend the Symphony X online store. Glenn provides a bloody good service. You can't go wrong there, and you'd be paying the US price in Canadian $.

proulxski said:
but its not, so for the money I have dished out on this godly band, you think id get at least a deal somewhere? like being able to heard Frontiers :P
I give up. Despite me pointing out the fact that you blatantly don't get anything other than what you've paid money for, you don't seem to understand. You deserve nothing, even if you were silly enough to pay ludicrous amounts for an album that you could have got cheaper if you'd had more patience or looked for a more secure online retailer.

It was your choice to pay for the CDs. Symphony X didn't make you. They didn't ask you to. They don't owe you anything, especially not a bonus track. That's the last time I'm saying it.
 
kazahana said:
They didn't ask you to.

Haha! Whoa, that's a good joke. Every band asks you to get their CDs. To say that they don't is a little like saying that they make music and then publish five albums so that they can buy their own CD and all the rest were on accident.
 
I can't spend all day every day here. If you have a problem with a post, see the little exclamation point icon in the lower left of each post window? Click that & an e-mail with a link to the post gets sent to me, that way I can handle it if you see it before I do. That said, I'm trying to arrange a second mod for this forum so there'll be someone watching when I can't, so be patient.

Piracy is NOT welcome here..if you didn't buy it or receive it from the band or label directly, then you have no right to it. Hell, I had to buy the Japanese release of The Odyssey, & I work for the band, so it's not going to kill ya'll to buy it too. Long before the internet, that's how we music fans got the cool rare tracks; we bought imports, & paid dearly for them, but it was worth every penny to have those extra songs by the bands we loved. Not sure when this sense of entitlement came about, but it's utter BS, IMO.
 
proulxski said:
Ptah, 15 $ across the border in Americain Currency... That still comes out to like 30 $ canadian dude! It would be just a greater waste of money lol, you see how high gas prices are going now days?

We are close to the border, I'm saying if you wanna get all the cd's (the whole symphony X collection) its way over 100$... The Odyssey + V;The NEw Mythology Suite comes out to around 68 $ after tax... thats 2 of their albums one more and we hit the 120 $ range

PS: its not any cheeaper for us to go acorss the boarder, I gotta get Americain $$$$ so I go to the bank and exchange my 30 for your 15... Its no cheaper, if you come to Canada and use us dollars its 15 around, but if you change into canadian currency its around 30... so in the end yeh its no cheaper lol

Okay....... I've never tried crossing the Canada-U.S. Border, so I don't know. and I thought you were saying that it's $100 per cd. That's where my idea came from. And also, I don't know (although i need to learn) the value difference between the U.S. and Canadian dollars.

Also, this is just a question, aside from what I just said. Is it considered Piracy if your friend buys a cd and you borrow it to put on your computer? Because that's how I got Twillight in Olympus and half of my Iced Earth collection on my computer.
 
ptah knemu said:
And also, I don't know (although i need to learn) the value difference between the U.S. and Canadian dollars.

As of today, $1US$ = $1.18CAN$, so the difference is drastically smaller than it was a few years ago, when it was more like $1US$ = $1.75CAN$.
 
i keep seeing posts along the lines of "we as fans have the right to hear a track." no we don't. it's a privelege for us, and we're lucky that there's a band as awesome as symphony x making music for fans like us. it's not their obligation to make music for us, nor is it anyone's to listen to their music. we chose to listen to symphony x. it IS your right to decide whether or not you want to shell out a little extra cash for that one song, but in no way is it a right of ours to have it.