Gaming Thread

Bethesda games are buggy because they're gigantic and playtesting those monsters takes forever. The complexity of games is exponential, and considering that in games like FO3, Skyrim etc you can approach anything any way and just do crazy shit it can get really difficult. In mass effect you have an objective, you approach it, shoot some people, choose a dialogue and you're done. The idea of the choices seems massive but in reality they're just a few pre set sequences. In mass effect you can't for example just randomly blast a quest giver away with some push ability, hell you can't even do anything to them except talk to them.

I love mass effect and games like it but shitting on bethesda for being buggy is pretty stupid. It's obviously they're trying (though they could do better) but comparing the tendency for their games to be buggy to anything else is flat out stupid. Not only that but they're one of the only companies left who haven't fully become heartless douchebags, note the great work on the construction kit, the free dlc they offered, the new way of doing mods (though still being allowed to do the old way), all the stuff they do for fans etc. I'm not saying they're the best no, but they're definitely better than most of the companies who wouldn't even dream of giving away something unless it is priced (and is still shitty).
 
I AM SO GOD DAMN MAD AT DEVIL SURVIVOR! I GOT STUCK WITH THE BAD ENDING AS MY ONLY ROUTE BECAUSE I MISSED ONE EVENT YET DID EVERYTHING ELSE RIGHT! FUCK THIS GAME! NOW I HAVE TO PLAY IT ALL OVER ON NEW GAME+ BECAUSE ITS SUCH A GOOD GAME ITS WORTH DOING AGAIN TO GET A GOOD ENDING! FUCK THIS PIECE OF SHIT!
 
@Enemy: Great, you just explained Bethesda games are sim like. All that equates to is being able mess around, even though none of it plays out in meaningful ways in the context of things. There's obviously a huge market for that kind of stuff, so fuck am I to say? However it's a well known fact in the industry that Bethesda release unpolished games. Mind you I'm not just talking floating cows. For example, in "Waters of Life" the npc I was suppose to lead out of the tunnel got stuck, which means I was unable to move forward in the main quest. That kind of bs is unacceptable.

The minute anyone mentions one of the many glaring flaws of Bethesda, everyone gets their pitchforks out. I'm just not a Bethesda apologist, but I'll be the first to admit on the rare occasions when they do something right, such as their creation kit.

/my side of the debate before I get shanked. :kickass:
 
so for all the shit you're giving them for having bugs etc in the game you're going to attack them for not putting unfinished prototypes and what's generally not anything else than animations into the game just like that?
 
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I wonder how badly they punish you for cheating on Liara.

I wonder if we would still be "together" if I never do Lair of The Shadowbroker.

I wonder why I care so much.

I wonder if I'd rather be with Miranda.