Guitar Tone Competition 3: Files and rules
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Sigh, I´ll send Ermz a pm. I´ll take the links down for now to avoid confusion, and I´ll put them back up when the problem is fixed. I´ll also send the people who signed up/posted in this thread a message when the new links are up.
poisson
New Metal Member
I'm using Ableton Live, and I found that all but one DI were 120 bpm matching the backing track. The 'GTR C DI.wav' came in at 125.03 bpm and set the master tempo to that, thus throwing off all the others as I pulled them in order.
I'll try again with the above suggestions on shifting just the backing mix after locking to 120.
I'll try again with the above suggestions on shifting just the backing mix after locking to 120.
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
Make sure you're in 44.1 The backing was done at 160bpm, and none of them were skewed at all.
yeah the backing was out on mine. I'm just gonna download it again when all the files are fixed- The guits being just a tiny bit out could make it sound a little weird so i'm just gonne wait.
Gonna use this for a re-amp test with my amps, got a quite different selection from what most guys on here have so should be fun.
Gonna use this for a re-amp test with my amps, got a quite different selection from what most guys on here have so should be fun.
Ermz
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Sorry about the troubles caused by this. It turns out the session didn't export from the 0 point on my end. I've fixed it up and it should align now. Mark's been sent the file and it should be up whenever he gets a chance.
EDIT: While at it, I've dropped the backing track level by another 6dB so you have 12dB of headroom to work with. This should be more than enough for any kind of usable guitar tone. In my opinion it's not as educational as being forced to work with less (especially in a modern metal scenario) but I hope it's more accommodating.
EDIT: While at it, I've dropped the backing track level by another 6dB so you have 12dB of headroom to work with. This should be more than enough for any kind of usable guitar tone. In my opinion it's not as educational as being forced to work with less (especially in a modern metal scenario) but I hope it's more accommodating.
I re uploaded Jeff´s DI´s and the new export I received from Ermz. They should be fine now. I also edited the info for the added 6db of headroom. Please let me know if anything (else) needs fixing. For now deadline remains the same, this didn´t take long to fix. Thanks Ermin for getting back to me so quickly.
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Lasse Lammert
HCAF Blitzkrieg
that doesn't make sense IMO.
if you're allowed to re-record the guitartracks to have a better/different performance (tighter playing for example) it doesn't make much sense that you're not allowed to edit the DIs for the same purpose.
esüecially since you can edit the re-recorded DIs if you want
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
The tone comparison only really holds up if everyone has the same performance to tinker with, it has to remain as much of a constant as possible. The only variable should be the guitar tone. As such, it isn´t allowed to edit the DI´s regarding timing, playing and performance because this should be a constant factor for all participants.
However, we realise some people may not have reamping capabillities. To lend them a hand, we allow them to record their own tracks and use those given that they show every effort to make their recording as similar to the given DI´s as possible. We didn´t get any fresh recordings in the previous 2 competitions, but if we get them now they will most likely go in a seperate category.
I hope I managed to clarify the intentions and reasoning behind those rules.
Are you participating this time around Lasse? Or spectating
Fuck yeah, finally happening
Sorry about the delays, I hope everything will be crunchy from this point.
Lasse Lammert
HCAF Blitzkrieg
I fully understand this, makes perfect sense.
that defeats point1 completely...I understand the reasoning behind it, but re-recording would change the tone WAY more than tempering with the original DIs (not saying it's necessary Jeff
), so I would not allow re-recording, and IF re-recording is allowed it doesn't make much sense to me to not be allowed to fuck with the DIs, that's like:(cooking contest) "you're not allowed to add salt to the supplied ingredients, but however you are allowed to replace them all with your ingredients, in that case you may add salt and whatever else you want".
I think either everyone has to work with the same material (which would be fair), or everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want (would not really be a contest then).
I'll probably not find the time to participate in this...we'll see
@Jeff: you know you suck! hehe, j/k, haven't even downloaded the files yet
I fully understand this, makes perfect sense.
that defeats point1 completely...I understand the reasoning behind it, but re-recording would change the tone WAY more than tempering with the original DIs (not saying it's necessary Jeff
(cooking contest) "you're not allowed to add salt to the supplied ingredients, but however you are allowed to replace them all with your ingredients, in that case you may add salt and whatever else you want".
I think either everyone has to work with the same material (which would be fair), or everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want (would not really be a contest then).
I'll probably not find the time to participate in this...we'll see
@Jeff: you know you suck! hehe, j/k, haven't even downloaded the files yet
I agree that re-recording is a drastic drastic change in tone, and that the performance will never be identical so you have a good point
I´m trying to aleviate that problem by putting the re-recordings into a different category so recording/reamping won´t give an unfair advantage. Honestly though, I don´t expect to see any re-recordings. Haven´t had any in the previous competitions and this one is a lot more work than those.
I haven´t decided on this, but I think the actual prizes will only go to reamped submissions. Re-recordings will not be eligible for the prizes, only for the critiques and advice they will receive in the competition. It would be unfair if someone were to win because of superior playing/DI´s when the competition is about guitar tone.
Lasse Lammert
HCAF Blitzkrieg
I agree that re-recording is a drastic drastic change in tone, and that the performance will never be identical so you have a good point
Honestly though, I don´t expect to see any re-recordings. Haven´t had any in the previous competitions and this one is a lot more work than those.
I haven´t decided on this, but I think the actual prizes will only go to reamped submissions. Re-recordings will not be eligible for the prizes, only for the critiques and advice they will receive in the competition. It would be unfair if someone were to win because of superior playing/DI´s when the competition is about guitar tone.
makes sense
Ermz
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My thoughts were always with Lasse about the re-performing. I doubt anyone would actually take the time to do it, but altering the performance is a significant factor in the perception of the overall tone.
+1
I'm sure the DIs are great but can we get some clarification on whether we can cut out all unwanted noise... I don't like noise gate plugins on guitars.
theforgotten
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poisson
New Metal Member
Can we get some info about drums,bass and vocals?They are awesome produced!Thank you guys!
+1
and the actual lyrics
