Health Care
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Hmm, I´ve read through all this about basejumping. If you tried to jump from the highest "mountain" in Denmark, you´d sprain an ankle at the most (180m/550feet)!
Anywho, we pretty much have the same health care system as in Norway.
Health care is universal.
The troubles with universal health care are the taxes we pay for it and that when ever the state runs things, they tend to get less effective.
We pay loads of tax here (I make below $80,000 a year, so I pay about 40%), and health care naturally is just one of many things we pay for.
The state, region, and municipally run hospital/"municipal doctor" (in lack of a better term) service, is not too effective. There are waiting lists for a number of operations and other procedures.
But, unlike stated above, Denmark (or Norway for that matter) IS a free market. You can go to the private sector to get your operations, there are a few private hospitals and clinics here. And people do that more and more, that is, if they work in one of the companies that have adopted the american system, where your employer provides some sort of health insurance. That has to do with the massive shortages in our work force where in certain types of businesses the unemployment is pretty much 0% (I believe the overall unemployment rate is 3-4%)
These two types of insurance supplement each other pretty well, I think. The state system is not perfect, to say the least. But it provides a safety net for those who would otherwise not have a chance, if they are unemployed or in a kind of business where the shortage is not that bad.
And the "american" system ensures employees a way to return to the work force faster than otherwise.
About the med school financing thing...
That wouldn´t be a problem around here. Via our taxes we pay for a lot of things...
When I started in high school I got a monthly state paid tuition of about $300, not because I was smart or a jock, no, simply to encourage me to study, and not to work too much on the side.
I did 3 years in Business school and university (without getting any degree in the end). For that, I was paid $800 a month. None of which I have to pay back!
edit: And ALL education is FREE!
So...
...you wouldn´t have all this trouble.
Anywho, we pretty much have the same health care system as in Norway.
Health care is universal.
The troubles with universal health care are the taxes we pay for it and that when ever the state runs things, they tend to get less effective.
We pay loads of tax here (I make below $80,000 a year, so I pay about 40%), and health care naturally is just one of many things we pay for.
The state, region, and municipally run hospital/"municipal doctor" (in lack of a better term) service, is not too effective. There are waiting lists for a number of operations and other procedures.
But, unlike stated above, Denmark (or Norway for that matter) IS a free market. You can go to the private sector to get your operations, there are a few private hospitals and clinics here. And people do that more and more, that is, if they work in one of the companies that have adopted the american system, where your employer provides some sort of health insurance. That has to do with the massive shortages in our work force where in certain types of businesses the unemployment is pretty much 0% (I believe the overall unemployment rate is 3-4%)
These two types of insurance supplement each other pretty well, I think. The state system is not perfect, to say the least. But it provides a safety net for those who would otherwise not have a chance, if they are unemployed or in a kind of business where the shortage is not that bad.
And the "american" system ensures employees a way to return to the work force faster than otherwise.
About the med school financing thing...
That wouldn´t be a problem around here. Via our taxes we pay for a lot of things...
When I started in high school I got a monthly state paid tuition of about $300, not because I was smart or a jock, no, simply to encourage me to study, and not to work too much on the side.
I did 3 years in Business school and university (without getting any degree in the end). For that, I was paid $800 a month. None of which I have to pay back!
edit: And ALL education is FREE!
So...
monoxide_child said:
...you wouldn´t have all this trouble.
Fenrisúlfr
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If I recall, Denmark was one of the first countries to go into recession in Europe, and you guys have not had any economic growth since the days of Charlemagne. You created a Leviathan and you are paying the price, 40% of $80K is $32K, and even the remaining $48K would go further if everything under the sun was not subjected to VAT to fund state largesse.
You could probably do better in terms of after-tax earnings and quality of life elsewhere, forget socialist Denmark, let it eat your dust.
It is necessary that we make our own way in the world, without the assistance of others, for to do so is theft. Though Robin Hood is celebrated, he still violated property rights i.e. perpetrated theft.
You could probably do better in terms of after-tax earnings and quality of life elsewhere, forget socialist Denmark, let it eat your dust.
It is necessary that we make our own way in the world, without the assistance of others, for to do so is theft. Though Robin Hood is celebrated, he still violated property rights i.e. perpetrated theft.
Ehh... No economic growth?!? Sure!
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/da.htmlCIA World Factbook said:
The guy is an ass clown (fenrisulfr). Here in the US most non "degree" employees are in the under $30,000 if not under 25,000 so your remaining $48,000 sounds pretty good. It takes a Union job in the US to hit 50,000 with good benefits. Then many "degree" holders only manage $50,000 or less.
I would say that most jobs over 50k are not union jobs. Union jobs pay well, but you don't find much growth in income there. Union employees get their regular 3-4% annual bumps for cost of living, but you don't find many bonuses given in this type of employment. Along with that, you don't have much opportunity to climb up the ladder either.
By the way, what one earns has a lot to do with where one lives. The salaries where I live (San Francisco) are much higher than those in other parts of the country. Yet, what one earns doesn't truly tell just how well one lives. 50k around here doesn't go as far as if I were living in North Dakota, to give a example. And once you take away the cost of living, the money one is left with, for the most part, balances out with other parts of the country.
You are right!
When I wrote about my income, it was because I´m in the "middle tax" group, and just above 80K you enter the "high tax" group. So, the more money you make, the higher percentage tax you pay.
And yeah, I don´t think I have more money after expenses than someone making 50K in the US. We have the income tax, we have the 25% VAT, petrol prices are double those in USA, new cars are taxed 180%, etc. etc.
Fenrisúlfr
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Might I advise you to look to the land of milk and honey: Dubai, home of the 0% income tax and 36-cent-per-litre gasoline. Likewise in Brunei, though it is less cosmopolitan. There, one could only work for a few decades, live well and save great amounts of money, and retire before 50. There, I heard engineers live like sultans.
That said, I like Mercedes, I like SUVs, so when I move, I shall drive this thing:
While in socialist Denmark, they will be reduced to this, especially as taxes increase to fund welfare of old people.
Enjoy living like a serf under the yoke of Her Majesty's government! HAH!
True but the Union is set up in such a way that one keeps up with the economic nonsense that takes place in what ever given local area. Owners of Union companies are forced... so to speak to spred the growth amounst its employees rather than use them and keep ALL the money. So everyone does good and is happy. They also have better buying and investing powers for health insurance and retirement funds, due to the numbers involved. Not everyone gets "to climb the ladder" in many occupations so I see no strong issue there.
With the wages for any given location, this is true as well but doesnt change the fact that the majority of our entire population is in the under $32,000 bracket. Economists are used to determine the income of areas and how to milk every last penny one will earn in their life out of them, these days. Inheritances will be nothing for our children that they were for previous generations. These "economists" have this shit down to a science now, money is disappearing everyday as if it never existed... but someone has it and they are not the contributors of society, quite the opposite, they are parasites.
It will come to a head one day, some could think we are seeing the time for this now, but I predict they will get away with it for at least a few more decades, at least until its so bad a social/economic/civil war breaks out, when people have REALLY had enough. The powers that be are from the parasitic camp as well, so any hoopla seen during campaigns is just PR to get votes, it will remain business as usual after the fact.
Fenrisúlfr
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Farmaceutical companies spend twice the amount of money on marketing drugs than they do on actual research while playing Disneyland and Brittany Spears with our nation's health. No wonder Americans are such losers.
I had to misspell that word on purpose because it is censored on here.
I had to misspell that word on purpose because it is censored on here.
indeed, another bunch of losers that have cost this countrys health insurance to go through the roof, as we all know "insurance" people have a hard time making ends meet, uh huh.
amazing that some people would want to put the current illegal drug trade in their hands as well.
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