Yeah that moshing bullshit is really bad in my neck of the woods. Sonata Arctica gets harsh mosh pits, which is stupid. I don't mind bumping around with some folks when Forbidden is blasting "Step by Step" into my face-holes but the behavior of people at a lot of these shows is just a major turn-off. It's all just a tough guy, long haired dick measuring contest and it's bad for you.