Hi, I'm new, question regarding recording computer, and internet...

James Murphy said:
ok... here it comes... you all knew it would.. heh heh..:D... and apologies J., as a lot of this doesn't have much to do with your questions.

i am online all day and all night, with my DAW computer, and i never have a problem. i have no firewall, i have no antivirus software, so i waste no time or money on those at all. nor do waste my time with spyware prevention or pop-up blocking... as before, zero time and zero money invested in those.

the regulars here already know why... it's because i'm on a Mac. i work all night and most of the day... i chat with clients and friends, and surf any sites i want, including porn:heh: ... i never worry about what i click on. several times in the last month i've had an Instant Message window from a friend pop open and read, "hey, check this out!!!" along with a URL link... i click them every time because i'm so used to my freinds sending links to funny shit all day and night that i don't even think twice, i just click. turns out they were not sent by my friends specifically, but by a worm virus that hijacked their buddy lists and started sending out links to some kind of virus download. i just say, "oh, how lame", and keep working. i know the virus won't infect me. why? 99.9% of viruses are .exe files, and .exe files don't run on Macs... they are just ignored.

the money and time i save is worth the pc/mac price difference alone... not to mention the 1001 other reasons that compel me towards working on my Macs, even though i have a "nice" PC sitting right in the next room.

and now the new PowerMac G5 Quad processor models are out (and they can be loaded with up to 16GB or ram) :headbang: .... life is good.

i was a PC man... i thought macs were "toy". i was wrong. i don't care what any of you can put together and build yourself with this or that AMD processor, blah, blah, blah... i buy a mac, toss a pci card or 3 in, toss some more memory in, install my software, hook up the interfaces to the pci cards and i get down to business... no compatiblity issues, no conflicts, no optimizing the OS... it just works. time is money boys and girls, and i'll be half way through mixing an album while you're still sussing out why your graphics card doesn't like your sound card.

And games... don't even get me started on games. Xbox wastes enough of my life as it is. my computers make me happy, but i don't play games on them... they are tools, and as such they(Macs) are not for everyone. But hey, i'm not trying to change anyone... PC-it if you must, i'm sure you'll get work done... people do everyday. just a matter of the amount of grief you don't mind subjecting yourself to and the amount of time you don't mind wasting while some Winblows service pack or update or other fucks your life and work up, or some hardware conflict in your home-made marvel makes you want to open a vein.

i fully expect more PC heroes to pipe in here now and defend the honor of the "roll your own" PC Erector-Set mavens with blurbs like "i like being able to choose every single piece of my computer, etc. etc", blah blah... more power to ya.. but it doesn't cause you make music more efficiently.

at the end of the day, use whatever you want or have to use... this post is not intended to convert PC users to Mac.... the reason for it is just because i felt like it.... and it's true... so there. :p


lol, Thanks for the post James. The funny thing is that you're right about everything. See, I was originally going to go with a Mac, but it was going to take me forever to save for one. (Stupid reason I know) And when I look at Mac specs that are under the PC specs I look at (slower processor, etc.) it turned me off for the price. I could be wrong though. Do they work faster even with slower processors?? For example I'm checking out the 2GHz model. Also, I just bought a really nice LG monitor, nicest that I've seen without being the Mac displays. Would I be able to use this with a Mac?? Thanks guys and I apoligize for the dumb questions.

-Joe
 
J.DavisNJ said:
lol, Thanks for the post James. The funny thing is that you're right about everything. See, I was originally going to go with a Mac, but it was going to take me forever to save for one. (Stupid reason I know) And when I look at Mac specs that are under the PC specs I look at (slower processor, etc.) it turned me off for the price. I could be wrong though. Do they work faster even with slower processors?? For example I'm checking out the 2GHz model. Also, I just bought a really nice LG monitor, nicest that I've seen without being the Mac displays. Would I be able to use this with a Mac?? Thanks guys and I apoligize for the dumb questions.

-Joe

A 1.4GHz G4 PowerPC processor is similar in power to a P4 2.8GHz, a new dual core G5 2.3GHz will piss all over an AMD 64bit 3GHz (even if you have two processors in the PC).

About the display, of course you can use the display. Apple have included VGA and DVI support in their system for years.

If you are on a budget get your hands on a Dual processor G4, James uses one (Dual 1.42GHz? IIRC) and doesn't seem to have any problems with power.
 
J.DavisNJ said:
Can the G4s still use Tiger and stuff??

-Joe
my main DAW computer is a PowerMac G4 dual 1.42 that's a couple years old now, and it's running Tiger 10.4.3 (the latest update) beautifully.
 
Cool, sounds good. Actually, i'm checking out www.dealmac.com and they seem to have some good deals on G5s. Less RAM than I'd like, but I would buy more anyway. Coming to this forum has helped me out a lot, and I have a feeling I'm going to be saving more $$ for one of these. :hotjump: ;) :headbang: Thanks dudes.

-Joe
 
Kenny Lee said:
To keep away from spyware? -----> Get a Mac!!!!!! :D
:OMG:
He...he....he....I use to be a PC dude too. Not knocking them, I just wouldn't advise a friend to buy one. And yeah your monitor will work fine with a Mac. Don't let the Best Buy store clowns B.S. you. ide internal drives will work in G4's too!!!
Coolest things about Macs, is when I buy a say for example a PC/Mac fire wire hard drive unit. I just throw away all the pc installer discs and instructions, hook the FW drive to my Mac..... initialize it and go! Same with scanners and printers! Just plug them in and do what you have to do!

Oh, and YES ....the Quad dualies will be the best thing to home studios since, since, oh hell I don't kow! They'll just own!!!!!!!! I can't wait to node my G5 dualie with a new Quad 2.7 with about 10 gigs of total ram memory:headbang: You could lock me in my lil' studio room for weeks. And some Mountain Dews and pizza deliveries!!:D
 
Yeah! Get a Macintosh! Now!!!

I have a Powerbook G4 17'' from 2003 and running Os X 10.2.8, NEVER had any problem with viruses and things like that.

I have 1 gigabyte of Ram.

Definitely worth the money. :Spin:
 
Hey guys, what's the difference between a Firewire 400 and an 800 port?

I'd be looking to hook up an Echo Audio AudioFire8. I've used their Indigo IO for about a year now and I like the company and I want to stay with them.

EDIT : Oh hey J.DavisNJ...if you're looking for a primer on general recording I suggest you go here : http://theprojectstudiohandbook.com/directory.htm

It has a TON of great articles on everything.
 
J.DavisNJ said:
Can the G4s still use Tiger and stuff??

-Joe

Yes indeed. Not really quite as smoothly as the G5s though, but still great. I'm running Tiger on my Powerbook 1.67 and also on my Dual 2.5 G5. The G5 flies running Tiger (w/4GB RAM)

Neil K.
 
stringy! said:
Hey guys, what's the difference between a Firewire 400 and an 800 port?

I'd be looking to hook up an Echo Audio AudioFire8. I've used their Indigo IO for about a year now and I like the company and I want to stay with them.

EDIT : Oh hey J.DavisNJ...if you're looking for a primer on general recording I suggest you go here : http://theprojectstudiohandbook.com/directory.htm

It has a TON of great articles on everything.

Firewire 400 is plenty fast enough to handle any audio task most of us would confront. Firewire 800 is quite a bit faster, but it is mainly being used for HD video storage to vast drives and external RAIDs, etc. Get a G5 and you'll have the option of Firewire 800, but I've personally never used it on mine.
 
Razorjack said:
A 1.4GHz G4 PowerPC processor is similar in power to a P4 2.8GHz, a new dual core G5 2.3GHz will piss all over an AMD 64bit 3GHz (even if you have two processors in the PC).

About the display, of course you can use the display. Apple have included VGA and DVI support in their system for years.

If you are on a budget get your hands on a Dual processor G4, James uses one (Dual 1.42GHz? IIRC) and doesn't seem to have any problems with power.

Dual Core AMD x2s don´t get pissed by G5. Yet, I´m not saying that Amds are faster or slower or anything. Your sentence was like be all and all: it´s not like that. There are also amd opterons (server cpus). A friend of mine uses a 4 opteron system (dual dual core). Technology is changing day-by-day.
 
Sorry, I'm not trying to intentionally hijack the thread but...

How are those little Mac Mini things? I'm looking for something simple just to fart around with for demos and I'd like to get into a Mac. I'm not doing anything too serious on my PC now, I just run Tracktion, Battery, and a few Waves plug-ins on about 8 or 10 tracks and I never record anything more than 2 tracks simultaneously.

Should I look at one of the G5 iMacs instead?
 
stringy! said:
Sorry, I'm not trying to intentionally hijack the thread but...

How are those little Mac Mini things? I'm looking for something simple just to fart around with for demos and I'd like to get into a Mac. I'm not doing anything too serious on my PC now, I just run Tracktion, Battery, and a few Waves plug-ins on about 8 or 10 tracks and I never record anything more than 2 tracks simultaneously.

Should I look at one of the G5 iMacs instead?

The biggest problem with the Mac Mini for music production is the lack of onboard RAM (you can expand it to 1 gig, but if you ever need more, you're out of luck.) Other than that, they're fast machines for a good price, and should be able to handle DAW stuff very respectably! It should be able to handle your current needs, and quite a bit more!

I'd get a PowerBook before I'd get a Mini though, and have a fully mobile rig (well, I do have a PowerBook G4 and I love it for that!)

The iMac G5 would be the last thing on this list I'd ever consider. Just save up for the G5 tower, it's worth it, meanwhile get a PowerBook if you want a fast, portable Mac that you'll always be able to use in a mobile rig scenario.
 
stringy... given your budget contstraints and the fact that you don't need many tracks at tall, the mac mini should be fine... get the top model and max it out... and get an external FW drive to record your projects to.. this is important. for you rneeds, as you stated them, the mini with the external drive will do fine.. and is much more affordable than the powerbook option.