How dark should Opeth get?

[Slaydon]

I just got too political in a music thread. I won't delete my statement, but I didn't intend to push conversation in that direction.

Apologies.

Fool.

 

[Nasty-Fire]

(...)

The economy is not going very well, recently. It's something to consider, and Obama has quite a task in front of him. The whole world is to blame, not him.

 

[Slaydon]

The economy is not going very well, recently. It's something to consider, and Obama has quite a task in front of him. The whole world is to blame, not him.

 

[EasyMoney]

I agree with those who trust Mikael to do what he wants with Opeth. I used to be afraid that he would be too pretentious for his and the band's own good, which could produce a lifeless and meandering album, but so far he has only become better at what he does. I think it'd be a crime if Mikael were to simply desire for his band and songwriting to go 'darker'. But of course if that were to be the case, Mike is too much of an artist to simply conceive of 'darkness' being about satanic lyrical vomit and tritone riffs. I love Watershed because of the juxtaposition; dark subject matter, but with new ideas with the instruments and song structure - major chords, happy wind instrument melodies, etc. This is uncanny in old time spirituals or blues music; sing about how damned you feel, judgment or being treated inhumane with a full choir or in a 12 bar pattern in C major. Simply put, 'Hours of Wealth' is becoming one of my favorite Opeth experiments.

 

[Ninfix]

I can't speak for him, but I'll say I agree. The bastard won the office through shady tactics and abusing the system and demographics, he used his campaign to bash the actions of the other party and the out of control spending. Then he gets the office and completely reverts on his promises, continues the same type of spending (only much worse, and much more), and doesn't help fix any issues that have developed over the last 8 years.

In 100 days, he spent more than bush did in 8 years, all of which was against the general consensus.

Capitalism= let the weak businesses fail, the strong businesses survive.
Socialism= bailouts

I know some people say: Some companies are just too large to let fail because they'll impact the entire us economy. Thats because they regulated small businesses and family operations when they should've surpressed the ability for the large industries to abuse the system.

I'm done. Screw Bush, Screw Obama. They are one and the same. The world image of Obama is as distorted as the American image of george bush in 2000.

 

[IbanezAxeMan]

i dont think they should go "darker" necessarily..but more "mysterious" like The Grand Conjuration and Death Whispered a Lullaby, ghost of perdition and deliverance. watershed was too upbeat.

 

[HoursOfDebt]

"none more blacker"

 

[EkstatikParataxis]

#000000

 

[Snusgropen]

I think progressing for Opeth is simply adding new things like flamenco interlude behind some serious jazz chords mixed with orchestrations.

Well Atheist played samba, so flamenco wouldn't be too off for Opeth.

 

[Sefeed]

I think they should ditch PRS and Laney for Suhr and Cornford then become a Jazz Fusion band that writes songs about the shit that gets stuck in your ass hair.

 

[Alteredmindeath]

we know opeth will do what they want , it's fun to discuss and visualize the next records.

happy writing Mikael, may you prove the naysayers wrong once more.

Onword we march into the land of the 0pethians...

 

[Slynt]

More ghosts and forests, less psychedelics.

 

[Iki-ilkkuja]

More evil sounding melodies would be nice.

 

[metal_wrath]

Does anyone actually seriously think that 'Watershed' is darker than the other albums? lol

 

[Nasty-Fire]

Does anyone actually seriously think that 'Watershed' is darker than the other albums? lol

+1.

 

[nat0]

+1.

I don't think that was the intention of Mike, I think he was feeling a change of direction with the band, not "this album is the darkest of ours yet". I like watershed. I didn't at first, but I like it now!