anonymousnick2001 said:
Same here. Just change "cat" to "horny elephant."
However, I can also do growls from the gut that sound pretty sick, especially if I've got phlegm worked up. Problem is, they sound really restrained, like I"m trying to be loud and soft at the same time.
I know what you mean. I can get it go loud but I run out air too fast. BUT, I can do midrange, and higher growls perfectly now for extended periods of time with only a bit of dryness in my throat. I used to not be able to do them at all, and my throat would hurt like hell. I think the big mistake people make is they just try to scream at the top of their lungs, or clench up their throat and force air. That's what I did at first anyway. Really, if you just start with using a bit of vocal fry and then increase it you should hear your growl almost immediately. From there, you just need to get the feel for it and learn to change pitch comfortably in higher and lower octaves. I can get as low as Mike, but I don't feel comfortable because I don't even really sing that low. I always feel short of breath. In a bit of higher octave however, I don't need to force the air nearly as much, and it feels natural after a few minutes. I can sing right along to at the gates, hypocrisy, the growls in moonspell, The Chasm seems to really fit me, I mean it's not as if I can't change the range at all.
I know what you guys are talking about with the gut thing too, but I tried and didn't have the lungs for it. It just sounded weak, almost whisper like. You need to use your gut for strong air sure, but the real growl comes right from the vocal chords and it doesn't damage them if you'rr using vocal fry. My growls are loud as hell when I'm in a comfortable range and it seems to me thats how they should be. I tried recording the other type with the mic turned up, and it still sounded just as weak but louder.
Oh and if you need an explanation of what I mean by vocal fry, just try talking like you've just woken up. The key is to not push enough air to have a clean tone. You should be able to feel the rasp. Use the rasp and sing a little metallica to get comfortable. From there you should be able to feel it enough to drop it down and get a fairly deep growl. It won't be loud at first. Practice changing pitches like that for a bit, and then in mid growl REALLY force it out and get it loud. It hurts a little at first, but not bad. Copy your favorite singer, and make sure to keep it loud. Now, bring it back up an octave or two(or three in some cases) while using your throat and vocal chords the same way as you did low. Experiment!
I think the lower growls are just lower voices, but I could be wrong. If you can do it your gut more power to you, but I couldn't even do it as loud as I talk so go figure.
