Teloch, I like what you had to say.... ever experience some psychadelics?
I've sort of caught a spiritual type feel to Borknagar's stuff... more in an archaiec form, as you mentioned. Very interesting to find, especially considering the vast, melodic sound space in the music....
Spirituality is a path and a very subjective one at that. If any of you have had an amazing mushroom trip and tried to explain it to others that haven't tripped before, it is pretty damned near hard to explain the feelings, the depth of the experience....
The Bible was put together over the course of hundreds of years, by different people with different perspectives and purposes... it has been translated and its content has been decided by the people in that power, for their own purposes.... It was the savior of the Roman empire. They put together and manipulated spiritual teachings and texts of old Hebrew laws, and with it they found they could
control people with it. Tricking people into doing what you want, it is a lot more advanced than control by physical force.. a lot less work. Keep people ignorant and without question...
Jesus' message used to contain teachings of reincarnation, believe it or not. The real content in The Bible is in the true spiritual teachings as they originally were.... most of it has been fucked over by ignorant people who didn't understand and took it for something else.
Remember what I was saying earlier, about how hard it is to describe to someone who hasn't had an experience, what that experience is? Spirituality can take you very deep in understanding and experience... most of the stuff in The Bible wasn't meant to have a literal interpretation. Metaphors!
Religion IS idea control. It is a structured way of thinking that is set up to control masses of people. It answers a question that people don't know the answer to, and it comforts them to hold this illusion.... religion is almost the exact opposite of spirituality.
Spirituality is the path that one takes on their own towards higher consciousness... thinking is requried and challenges are accepted as learning experiences, Life is lived to its fullest and the moment is appreciated... Life becomes a continous expression of who you are. Religion, however, keeps people in the lowest levels of consciousness, it gives them easy answers so they don't have to think... they don't have to do anything as far as their own seeking and their own self betterment...
It is sort of ironic, how religion actually seperates people more and more from God. Jesus' teachings were pretty much similar to Buddhism.. a spiritual pathway that thankfully actually was preserved and still contains its original intent and meaning.... it isn't about the afterlife and it isn't about "getting to Heaven", it is about climbing the ladder of consciousness while we are here. It is about getting in touch with our true nature inside of us that our ego has cut us off from.
There is a divine experience within us every moment.... the fact that we are aware of what is around us is quite the gift. Hehe, sorry for rambling, I couldn't quite say what I wanted to say.... let's just forget about religion and be the Enlightened beings that we truly are.
Hehe, Teloch, you might be interested in checking out
www.shroomery.org, more specifically, the forums... feel free to PM me if you wish.
