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...BUT YEAH JAJA END OF STORY I SAY...
LoboUivante
my tummy hurts
don't buy records for ages, low on money for some time now. eventually i'll check it out... but to make this more politically correct, i'll only download it after it is officially released 
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Blakkheim
In the Still of the Night
The Internet scene has proven it has its own course, it cant be controlled by the labels nor the band, whats leaked is leaked and it spreads like a wildfire.
Labels could stop sending out promo cds prior to the release, but then they wouldnt get any generalized feedback and no hype built up before hand and that would collapse the whole promotional campaign.
When an album is leaked one month prior to release, thats pretty much what we have to live with, it can even add to the hype, people start talking about it, the buzz is on, but it would be nothing short of devastating for a band if it was already available six months or even up to a year in advance. Thats 100% unacceptable. When the album has been out for such a long amount of time, its already old news and will fall flat like a dead fish upon its release date cuz people have since then moved on, being excited about the current leaked releases and have forgotten about the release I downed 6 months ago since its already back catalogue priority.
Personally, I would wanna view internet (including the p2p tools) as a big radio station with your own freedom of choice to download songs and listen to them and if you like it, then you go buy the album (for the artwork, the real deal format and to show support to a band you love), and once you did that you probably wanna go to shows and buy a t-shirt too, so its all intertwined and one thing leads to another.
anyways, p2p illegal file sharing shall never ever replace an official final product, and what the final product is, should be in the hands of the copyright owner to decide be it a digital download or a jewel case cd.
Labels could stop sending out promo cds prior to the release, but then they wouldnt get any generalized feedback and no hype built up before hand and that would collapse the whole promotional campaign.
When an album is leaked one month prior to release, thats pretty much what we have to live with, it can even add to the hype, people start talking about it, the buzz is on, but it would be nothing short of devastating for a band if it was already available six months or even up to a year in advance. Thats 100% unacceptable. When the album has been out for such a long amount of time, its already old news and will fall flat like a dead fish upon its release date cuz people have since then moved on, being excited about the current leaked releases and have forgotten about the release I downed 6 months ago since its already back catalogue priority.
Personally, I would wanna view internet (including the p2p tools) as a big radio station with your own freedom of choice to download songs and listen to them and if you like it, then you go buy the album (for the artwork, the real deal format and to show support to a band you love), and once you did that you probably wanna go to shows and buy a t-shirt too, so its all intertwined and one thing leads to another.
anyways, p2p illegal file sharing shall never ever replace an official final product, and what the final product is, should be in the hands of the copyright owner to decide be it a digital download or a jewel case cd.
FatefuL
syndrome lover
I will probably download it before buying.. but it is a SURE thing that i WILL buy it.. i'm from Brazil.. and Katatonia doesn't have brazilian releases ( except for Dance of December Souls ) .. so when new album comes out will have to get it shipped back here.. will take sometime and yea money.. the worst thing is to decide where to get it .. find the best price ( wich still generaly expensive. ) and then wait for it to get here.. my heart would have exploded before that..
.. but really not sure.. have been a long time since I last had that good feeling of getting a new cd on my hands.. and opening it.. putting on my cd-player and listening it to the real first time.. its such a good sensation.. maybe its a good moment for that ? ..
time shall tell
.. but really not sure.. have been a long time since I last had that good feeling of getting a new cd on my hands.. and opening it.. putting on my cd-player and listening it to the real first time.. its such a good sensation.. maybe its a good moment for that ? ..
time shall tell
Deliverance6
Member
Personally I wont even look for it.....I think Anders is right about the hype thing though.....and I dont think this CD will have any problem with attaining christlike status even before its release.......I am truly expecting this Katatonia release to not only be their best work (because it always is) but to break them free....not mainstream....but more ...hmmm.....accessible?
Peaceville I think will do some hyping of their own if they want to keep them signed.....the U.S. should definately be in the works(ATTNAULA HOGAN)
So maybe I would suggest not putting the CD online once you buy it.....sure someone will....but I personally dont want anything to do with helping people not buy my favorite bands CD....their will probably be a promo of some sort floating around......let them DL that....
Reece
Peaceville I think will do some hyping of their own if they want to keep them signed.....the U.S. should definately be in the works(ATTN
AULA HOGAN)So maybe I would suggest not putting the CD online once you buy it.....sure someone will....but I personally dont want anything to do with helping people not buy my favorite bands CD....their will probably be a promo of some sort floating around......let them DL that....
Reece
Jinn
Saint
MadTinus
Language enthusiast
Where I download I always get high quality mp3's which hardly differ in quality from the actual CD sound. Nowadays as soon as the promo CD's are sent out by the label, it's matter of days (hours!) before it leaks.
I pretty much agree with what Anders said, it would be disastrous if an album would leak so early in advance, but then, that is very unlikely to happen, because promo's are usually shipped out 2 months before the album release at the very earliest, usually one/one-and-a-half months.
In the end, I can only speak for myself, I download the full albums of my fave bands as soon as they're out there and ALWAYS buy the original when it's out (and not rarely in more than one version). The ones I don't buy, are albums I never would have bought in the first place and if I don't like them, I delete them. The ones I bought I also immediately delete from my harddrive.
Just look at my CD-collection, I have nothing to feel guilty about.
I pretty much agree with what Anders said, it would be disastrous if an album would leak so early in advance, but then, that is very unlikely to happen, because promo's are usually shipped out 2 months before the album release at the very earliest, usually one/one-and-a-half months.
In the end, I can only speak for myself, I download the full albums of my fave bands as soon as they're out there and ALWAYS buy the original when it's out (and not rarely in more than one version). The ones I don't buy, are albums I never would have bought in the first place and if I don't like them, I delete them. The ones I bought I also immediately delete from my harddrive.
Just look at my CD-collection, I have nothing to feel guilty about.
Migs
Friday the 13th addict
Vincent J.
Member
I would never download an entire album, 'cause (as it has been said before) it wastes the romance about the cd (for me that is)
I have my own little ritual when I buy an album, I go home and lie down on the couch, put my headphones on... and I let myself float away with the music..
go whereever the songs take me
It's one of the best things I have, so I won't waste it by downloading an entire album, because I can't experience the things I described above when I fist heared the album behind the screen of my computer...
-vincent
I have my own little ritual when I buy an album, I go home and lie down on the couch, put my headphones on... and I let myself float away with the music..
go whereever the songs take me
It's one of the best things I have, so I won't waste it by downloading an entire album, because I can't experience the things I described above when I fist heared the album behind the screen of my computer...
-vincent
paradoxile
Den Sista Ljusbäraren
I wouldnt even know where to go to download a full album or a couple songs because i dont download but i have in the past like Opeth's Ghost Reveries but only downloaded a few songs because there was link's available in the threads but in the end i still bought Ghost Reveries.
Vincent J.
Member
Well, I once contacted a member of some quite unknown band (sepia dreamer)paradoxile said:
And he's sent me a cdr of a cd which is out of print,
but, that's an exeption
in that case I would probably download the album, if I can't get it otherwise
shadowNINE
Guitar/Backing Vocals in Vacant Eyes
I will definitely continue to wait for the album until I can buy the official release...out of respect for the band, and out of respect for the album.
It's pretty clear that the band does not want people to download the album (especially before it is released). And I feel that an album should be enjoyed in the way that the artists intend for it to be experienced...with artwork, liner notes, any other packaging, and at whatever sound quality and format is desired (be it CD, tape, vinyl, or otherwise).
And so although I am greatly anticipating this (I love Katatonia and already have all of their releases), I'd prefer to give the album and the people behind it what they deserve and just wait.
Soon.
It's pretty clear that the band does not want people to download the album (especially before it is released). And I feel that an album should be enjoyed in the way that the artists intend for it to be experienced...with artwork, liner notes, any other packaging, and at whatever sound quality and format is desired (be it CD, tape, vinyl, or otherwise).
And so although I am greatly anticipating this (I love Katatonia and already have all of their releases), I'd prefer to give the album and the people behind it what they deserve and just wait.
Soon.
Demonspell
cheating the polygraph
The album's been leaked for nearly two months now and I have yet to hear anything except the officially sanctioned sample...anything less than the actual CD is an insult to the artist, I agree completely.
paradoxile
Den Sista Ljusbäraren
Vincent J.
Member
buying an official cd you are actually supporting the band so i think every fan should buy an official one in the end.
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