I found a new band to hate!!!

[GarethSE]

"drone by day, metalhead by night"

describing my tastes in music eh?

 

[TheDude]

Apart from everyone ripping this band apart, and the idea of selling out and whatnot, to me the issue of bands like this, and even something like Borkencyde - in a way - could be construed to mean that younger generations are a bit more open to a variety of styles of music mashing up (for lack of a better term) to produce something like this. It seems like younger bands (think teenage to early 20 year olds) are more apt to have these off the wall mixes of metal/pop/hip hop, etc...And the sad part is that they take the most raped and cliched aspects of those genres to make their music, so it comes off cheapened and dumb. While I think those who listen think it's something new or different, it isn't at all, IMO the musicians playing it just haven't perfected their songwriting craft to the point where they can make a more singular statement...Which these days doesn't seem to be something musicians seem to be down for, especially in styles where heavier music is involved. So in the end the people griping the most are the ones more apt to be labeled curmudgeons or too "troo" (which in this case, I'd prefer to be a curmudgeon).

IMO, there is a lot to be said to have a more narrow focus when writing one's music. Just because the scope has breadth doesn't mean the music is any better...at all.

This kind of thing to me in heavy music is akin to what Britney Spears and any other pop tart is to mainstream pop music.

+1

Ah, this was what I was thinking when I read this thread.

I just want to add: The younger generation always do music that the older generation think suck donkeyballs. Are you guys getting too old already? I mean, I'm 40, I could complain, but you guys are a lot younger. Right?

 

[Metaltastic]

describing my tastes in music eh?

Hahahaha, well played

 

[kaomao]

I don't understand. I read the comments before I watched the clip and thought, this outta be funny.

Funny, it was. Shit, definately.

The funny thing about the song is it sounds like 80% of the stuff you hear in the rate my mix threads. If someone had posted that exact same song, and no one new any different, I doubt we would of seen any comments like that.


That song is just a step down from KSE. That style always sounds shit to me, but I truly was ready for something 1000 times worse than that. Is the gap between this song and 80% of what we hear on here that big a difference?

You're just totally fucking right, I don't see a whole difference between this and the total fucking emo shit posted, just sometimes not always (thank god fortunately) in the rate my mix section lol

 

[Black neon bob]

Not exactly original. These guys not only have done it as well but they also saved it for the end and right after a breakdown just like attack attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEBTw_ZnN9Q

I guess it's their way of trying to somehow make the kids remember them among all the other bands that play the same style. (still need a shrug smilie)

That ending was fucking excellent! why not through the whole song though?

 

[ATLA]

not to burn on the guys making the comment about the rate my mix threads.. but isn't this forum more about heavy music production anyway? while we might not agree with the music thats present there, that section its there so we can better ourselves mixing abilities from others opinions..

 

[nwright]

+1

Ah, this was what I was thinking when I read this thread.

I just want to add: The younger generation always do music that the older generation think suck donkeyballs. Are you guys getting too old already? I mean, I'm 40, I could complain, but you guys are a lot younger. Right?

I don't know if it means I'm getting old, I've just always gravitated towards bands who write songs, not a string of riffs, string of "half thoughts" or a string of genres...And, it seems that as time goes on, most metal bands don't seem to want to do that at all.

 

[GarethSE]

I just want to add: The younger generation always do music that the older generation think suck donkeyballs. Are you guys getting too old already? I mean, I'm 40, I could complain, but you guys are a lot younger. Right?

im 18 and this crabcore shit makes me want to vomit

 

[Metaltastic]

not to burn on the guys making the comment about the rate my mix threads.. but isn't this forum more about heavy music production anyway? while we might not agree with the music thats present there, that section its there so we can better ourselves mixing abilities from others opinions..

Yeah, ignore them, they forget that this isn't the "Ultimate Metal...for geezers that need to be put out to pasture" forum (FTR I can't stand anything -core or emo, but I also don't like old crusty thrash either!)

 

[TravisW]

I agree with you generally. But having been around some all I can say is I haven't ever met anyone who successfully "compromised their vision" to succeed. I think there is this misconception that selling out is actually an option for anyone--as though there are label guys on every corner giving out big checks and myspace haircuts.
The reality is it is very difficult to succeed doing what you love, let alone something you are half-hearted about. "Selling out" is next to impossible. Generally that term comes up as an attempt to moralize taste.
I think Lasse's point was that success in music is worthy of respect in it's own and it requires a level of work and commitment unappreciated and often marginalized by those who live with their mom and play gigs once a month.

I largely agree. It partially depends on how you define "success", but are there people who have compromised their vision in hopes of making some extra cash? I can't speak to whether anybody relatively famous really "sold out", but I can tell you that I've known plenty of people who have tried pretty hard to do so.

 

[LeSedna]

shit you made my day

 

[16S]

Jesus christ, this thread! I thought i was on blabbermouth you bunch of girls!!

 

[nowherecatastrophe]

this song actually reminded me that i forgot to put in the bassdrops for a mix im working on with pretty much the same generic metalcore riffing and breakdowns.

band: (during tracking,just as the breakdown hits) "hey could you...."
me: yes i can put in a big DOOOOOOOOM.
band: wow how did you know?

techno part is good though haha

 

[DaveBlack]

I'm suprised no one mentioned stick stickly. Dont you guys remember that popsicle stick guy from Nickelodeon circa 94-95?

Write to me, stick stickly
PO box niiiine six three
new york city , new york state
1-0-1-0-8

 

[Erik Monsonis]

band: (during tracking,just as the breakdown hits) "hey could you...."
me: yes i can put in a big DOOOOOOOOM.
band: wow how did you know?

lol!

 

[drew_drummer]

None of you guys know what you're talking about. This shit is REEEEEAAAAAL!

 

[BrettT]

Congrats to all of us for catching AIDS from watching that video.

 

[alan1990]

there really good live and area all genuinely nice guys got to meet them a few months back. The style is something you either love or hate and But id have to side with kicknwing! how can someone get as low as andrew and not be amazing! not to mention joeys amazing mix job



Also its kinda shity to hate on music you don't like, For one they are farther in the industry then most people on here will ever be, and isnt this forum suposed to be about music production and mixing? not hating on shit thats popular

 

[jrt12]

Congrats to all of us for catching AIDS from watching that video.

hahahaha...nice!

 

[ahjteam]

I guess Enter Shikari isn't as gay?