I never thought I'd be so disappointed with an Evergrey album
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TwizstedJesus
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My two cents...
Is it a change from what Evergrey is known for? Yes.
Is it far removed from what Evergrey is(ala Queensryche)? Not on your life.
I listened to it a few times and thought,its not bad,,,
I listened to it a few more times and thought,this is pretty good...
I listened to it this morning and had a hard time getting up and going to bed.This is bordering on being Evergreys "Inside Out"(Fates poorly received disc). Its not as heavy, its not as complex,yet its atmospheric and lyrically deep,with a quality flow from start to finish.
I'm going out on a limb here and saying its the most fresh immediate disc Evergrey has put out.Does that make it their best? No,it makes it a pleasent listening experience,like so many other Evergrey discs from the past.
Unmemorable? No way in hell!I'm really looking forward to seeing Evergrey in Sept.These songs live will be amazing
Is it a change from what Evergrey is known for? Yes.
Is it far removed from what Evergrey is(ala Queensryche)? Not on your life.
I listened to it a few times and thought,its not bad,,,
I listened to it a few more times and thought,this is pretty good...
I listened to it this morning and had a hard time getting up and going to bed.This is bordering on being Evergreys "Inside Out"(Fates poorly received disc). Its not as heavy, its not as complex,yet its atmospheric and lyrically deep,with a quality flow from start to finish.
I'm going out on a limb here and saying its the most fresh immediate disc Evergrey has put out.Does that make it their best? No,it makes it a pleasent listening experience,like so many other Evergrey discs from the past.
Unmemorable? No way in hell!I'm really looking forward to seeing Evergrey in Sept.These songs live will be amazing
4-String Annihilation
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Resident fangirl chimes in:
This isn't my favorite disc from them, but I still enjoy it.
The important thing to me here is that a) different is good. I don't want them to do the same album with the same sound over and over again. b) they're still doing what THEY want to do, not tearing themselves apart trying to please both fans and record company, which is where DT lost their way. It's one of the things I respect most about of the band, and as long as they keep doing that, they'll never put out a shitty album.
This isn't my favorite disc from them, but I still enjoy it.
The important thing to me here is that a) different is good. I don't want them to do the same album with the same sound over and over again. b) they're still doing what THEY want to do, not tearing themselves apart trying to please both fans and record company, which is where DT lost their way. It's one of the things I respect most about of the band, and as long as they keep doing that, they'll never put out a shitty album.
Sumeet said:
A couple of people who have heard it say that it sounds more commercial.
The songs on it are airplay length, not 6 minute monsters like you are accustomed to hearing.
They made the album with a couple of folks who are used to producing commercial music.
Most Prog bands are made up of musicians, and most commercial bands are made up of business people, IMO. Problem is, artists need to eat and pay the rent, too.
They are giving commercial music a shot. They are very good at Prog. And this is a first attempt. If they never gave it a shot, they would never make it big over here. I support their effort and wish them luck.
Zod: Yes, a lot of kids download the music. But in the incredibly affluent area in which I live, a lot of kids buy the albums too--PLUS you cannot download a t-shirt over the web (and I hope EG gets revenue there) or have the nice lyric sheets and packaging the album has.
Meh. I am tired of arguing the point. And for me, the "quality" of the album will be good because EG is performing on it. To paraphrase a quote from whatever cult first thought of it:
EG Made it.
I will buy and love it.
That settles it!
Tess
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AMBR
Metal Grandma
We have it on the radio, Tess. I recommend you request Obedience first. That's my favorite so far. I've read nearly this entire thread and I understand what our metal gurus on the forum are saying, but as a mere metal mortal, all I can say is it's growing on me more and more.Bad Girl Tess said:I feel so left out!!
I can't wait to hear what they have done this time ....
The very first time I heard the first song, I instantly felt trepidation. I love Tom's voice and the overprocessed vocals turn me off. Also some of the regurgitated formulas at first listen seem too predictable and unworthy of EG. But I have to say, the guitar, to me, is as powerful as ever, there is still an atmospheric quality in many of the songs, when the vox aren't screwed with, they are as compelling as ever and the lyrics are full of emotion and often disturbing. (What the hell happened to the girl he left on the street who disappeared? This is torturing me.
) I don't like the chorus to Inside Out or whatever it's called. Too repetitive and weak. Overall, I think I'm gonna love this cd, though I can see where many elite metal listeners will not. Oh well, guess I'm just one of the mainstream masses.
Kenneth R.
Cináed
Ok so I've FINALLY heard it.
IMO: I've actually heard MMA live in London before I ever heard the album, and I will attest that whatever tonal difference there is on the album, it sounds 100% badass live.
That said, I see how this is a little different than their previous stuff, but I still think it's absolutely great. I really don't see what people have to complain about, the *only* thing I could think of, if I was being picky, is the guitar tone on the album could be more upfront as in previous albums, but even that is trivial.
In fact, after all the negative PR, I find I am more impressed with this disc than I expected.
IMO: I've actually heard MMA live in London before I ever heard the album, and I will attest that whatever tonal difference there is on the album, it sounds 100% badass live.
That said, I see how this is a little different than their previous stuff, but I still think it's absolutely great. I really don't see what people have to complain about, the *only* thing I could think of, if I was being picky, is the guitar tone on the album could be more upfront as in previous albums, but even that is trivial.
In fact, after all the negative PR, I find I am more impressed with this disc than I expected.
Burke
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My simple problem is I find it hard to get by the obvious stamp on EVERY single song of the producers and the attempt to make the music more 'accessible' for the 'masses.' (gave me flashbacks to Falling Into Infinity but it seems to be a worse case on this CD for sure.)
Recreation Day and ISOT are two of my favorite top albums.
As far as MMA goes, I don't hate the album but I sure don't love it either.
(but I will be there in the audience in Ft. Lauderdale when they play for sure)
[and Glenn... dude, Rorschach?????? NICE avatar bro! ]
Recreation Day and ISOT are two of my favorite top albums.
As far as MMA goes, I don't hate the album but I sure don't love it either.
(but I will be there in the audience in Ft. Lauderdale when they play for sure)
[and Glenn... dude, Rorschach?????? NICE avatar bro!
]
Kenneth R.
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General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Except when it's Rock. I don't want to get into a genre debate, but to my ear, this CD sounds more Rock than Metal. I'm sure most will disagree. That's cool.Kenneth R. said:
Zod
Kenneth R.
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Burke
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General Zod said:
Actually that observation works better for me than most, Zod.... I definitely see that.
And as for genre's, they 'matter' when a band seems to slip from one that is their bread and butter to a different one where there is only one main reason behind doing so - becoming more accessible to a wider mainstream audience.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Well said.Burke said:
I don't get too caught up with which bands fit into which genres. However, the fact of the matter is, I don't care for Rock. For my money, if something is going to be aggressive, than it should be AGGRESSIVE. To me, Rock music is like getting a lap dance from a really hot stripper who recently "found god".
Zod
Kenneth R.
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Daybreaker
Red, Hot, and Heavy
This is one band in a genre of thousands releasing one cd. I don't see how some of you act like this is the end of life and that because you don't like this cd the band is going to just fall off into "mainstream hell" or whatever. Evergrey have been releasing albums for almost ten years. I think it is about time for them to broaden their base and reap some fringe benefits. While realistically I dont expect to see them on the cover of Alternative Press anytime soon, you should sit back and think "Wow. This small little band from Sweden have taken off and become quite large in the metal scene. More power to em for being one of the one in a million bands that have success in their craft."
Tess
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Just got this Disorder email today and had to chuckle:
"Well, this album is a pretty significant departure from their previous stuff. Stylistically it's the bastard child of The Inner Circle and Recreation Day, but there are a fucking TON of keyboards thrown in here. Also, the cd is much more melodic than previous Evergrey material - The songwriting technique is technically superb (the choruses on this album are some of the catchiest I've ever heard) and the vocals are incredibly harmonious, more so than in Recreation Day. It's also notable that from the sounds of things Englund is putting a lot more emotion into his singing."
Yeah, right.
"Well, this album is a pretty significant departure from their previous stuff. Stylistically it's the bastard child of The Inner Circle and Recreation Day, but there are a fucking TON of keyboards thrown in here. Also, the cd is much more melodic than previous Evergrey material - The songwriting technique is technically superb (the choruses on this album are some of the catchiest I've ever heard) and the vocals are incredibly harmonious, more so than in Recreation Day. It's also notable that from the sounds of things Englund is putting a lot more emotion into his singing."
Yeah, right.
Harvester
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