I see trouble between COB and Iced Earth

Zarok666

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I just read the following statement of Anders Friden from In Flames on Blabbermouth:

"IN FLAMES vocalist Anders Fridén has slammed ICED EARTH mainman Jon Schaffer over comments Schaffer made during ICED EARTH's 2002 North American tour, which featured IN FLAMES in the support slot.

"I have fucking little love for a certain guy in that band," Anders Fridén told Sweden's premiere rock/metal magazine Close-Up for its March issue, referring to Shaffer. "I'm not the kind of person who talks shit about people — but this isn't bullshit, for that matter — [or the kind of person to] expose someone [in the press]. We supported ICED EARTH in the U.S. and did amazing well. We got a really great response and [Jon] — the rest of the band were cool — was upset, I guess. It ended with him calling us 'spoiled European pussies,' saying that I was a fucking rock star and a lot of other things. I'm fucking far from being a rock star, so I didn't feel guilty, but it was weird how he could make us out to be 'spoiled European pussies.' There were lot of complaints [from Jon], and our part of the stage was getting smaller and smaller, even though we'd sold out some of the venues before on our own. I could barely stand by the mic stand, that's how tight it was between the drum set and me. Then [I had issues with some of] his statements, which are [very] pro-America, to say the least. He talked shit about Swedes and Europeans in front of us and the other support act JAG PANZER, whose drummer [Rikard Stjernquist] is of Swedish descent. The drummer said 'What are you saying? I'm half Swedish,' to which [Jon] responded, 'Yeah, but you've lived in America for a long time, so we're not talking about you.' I've gotten along with everyone we've toured with, and I didn't think it was [that bad], even though we had differences of opinion, but [Jon] is the only person on this planet that I can't stand."


Somehow I already thought that there could occur troubles between COB and Iced Earth (well, only Jon) because he is a fucking asshole. After I read this, I really start to worry. When he calls Anders a rock star, what would he call Alexi? I really hope that Iced Earth don't want to fuck COB on the tour and treat them like shit like they did with In Flames. COB are nice guys and don't deserve such shit and Iced Earth need COB to get a successful tour.
 
i live in the US and i, for one, hate people like schaffer who are so wrapped up in the pro-america bullshit that they would say something like "spoiled european pussies"...what an asshole.
 
Oh for crickey's sake!

if this statement is true then it sucks about the stage situation but as for the 'european pussies' comment then +flips bird+ to hell with them, if a band's professional they can pull through even if a tourmate band isn't the nicest.
 
Jon's like that to everyone, even his own (ex)band members. He was talking trash about Matt Barlow after he left. I like Iced Earth's music cuz it has nothing to do with how much of an idiot Jon is but he's gotta watch his mouth, he has become too cocky over the past couple of years.


@Zarok666: You're right, CoB don't deserve shit like that from anyone, especially from someone like Jon Schaffer. I hope the tour goes well.
 
I'm gonna be getting slammed after COB goes off the stage so if there is any indication that guy is being a fuck he's at least getting flipped off a few hundred times. I hope that this situation wouldnt boil over at the beginning though because i am going to 2 of the last 3 shows and thats all i need. But my buddies and i are definitely going to be chanting bodom through their whole set. And for all we know that magazine could be BS, but whatever.
 
^ Sooo true. Especially when they play here in Canada. There are Iced Earth fans here, I myself am one, but if he keeps this Mr. Pro-America attitude up he's going down.
 
Ive always admired Jon for his rhythm playing, but if I ever see that guy on the street, he's getting some. Being patriotic is one thing, but being a complete ass to other cultures and people is down right Socialistic, and borders Nazism in ways. So, Fuck Jon Schaffer
 
Yeah America isnt perfect but im definitely proud to be an american, but i dont think that europeans are a bunch of pussies (well except for the french). See Iced Earth is going to get fucked though, because 60 percent of the people there to see them will be like "why the fuck am into these guys". Guaranteed Bodom is going to totally steal part of iced earths fanbase.
 
i always admired jon schaffer and im not going to be quick to judge anything thats been posted. ive met these guys on tour last year when they were touring with in flames and jag and played at the troc in philly. suffice it to say jon and the rest of the band were some of the nicest people ive ever met. the show ended around midnight and me and my friends went to grab something to eat. when we came out of the restaurant around 1 we saw a very old blue bus parked on the side of the road, and a bunch of long haired fellows just standing around. i immediately thought it was iced earth (because i noticed matts orange hair from a good distance, u cant miss it). well they stayed for about 2+ hours and just chatted with fans, signing autographs, taking pictures and just shootin the shit. jag and some of the guys from in flames were out there as well so im not saying this to prove anything. just that i find this a bit hard to believe. anywho i was sportin my bodom shirt and he commented on me and my friends sayin "its great you guys are all listening to metal, you guys are the next young generation of metalheads" and about other good metal bands from europe.

however, seeing as how jon is heavily influenced w/ america's past (and the civil war) and loves his harley he does seem the type to be "pro-america" as some put it. but when i read some of those comments, none of them were overwhelmingly offensive (ill probably end up getting flamed for saying that). the only thing that would be offensive would be the european pussie rock star comment, but who knows, it's not any of our positions to agree because we've never really met the guy.......plus its not like europeans dont talk shit about americans. now im not saying its ok for jon to make dumb remarks on behalf of "america", but its pointless to debate it. ok so what if he did or did not, people are always going to talk shit and half never get the apology they look for. ive met some very rude europeans before, as well as some of the nicest ones, and that goes the same for americans.

so in summary, whats happened in the past should stay there. i dont like to take sides because theres always going to be bias......so i hope cob and IE have a great tour. (plus im not liking IE's new album......not my cup of tea/beer/wine/etc.)