If Mort Divine ruled the world
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EternalMetal
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In a nutshell, this seems to accurately describe the way I feel about the whole movement. I have nothing wrong with gay people or those who act in opposition to their biological sex. But the people who need to transform or whatever, I think they are just sick in the fucking head and it feels insulting to associate them with any of my gay friends. It's like me telling people I like death metal, and them saying, "so your one of those emo kids, right?" No, I don't self mutilate, am not insecure, and don't idealize suicide as a means to end my pain. Nor do I listen to the same kind of music. I know im dumbing it down, but the analogy is similar I think.
Honestly I think you are onto something, even though it will never happen. Id love to just straight up tell a trans person to their face that they are crazy, but I dont think I have the balls to do it in today's society. Modern medicine may not have a solution, but we used to not have a solution for people with schizophrenia and other mental disorders. Perhaps someday, but not with the Ts being associated with the gender fluid agenda.
CiG
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I honestly don't even give a shit about all the body modification they're into, just don't force me (whether through the law or social justice mob rule) to call you a woman when you're just a mutilated dude, or in some cases not even that, just a fully functional dude in a dress.
Mort Divine
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CiG
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I generally use preferred pronouns, but enforcing participation by law or by mob rule is only counter-productive, you can say "boo hoo" all you like but it's the trannies committing suicide over it.
Also, there's no such thing as involuntary respect.
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Pronouns were just the vector of entry anyways, a way to police language at a most fundamental grammatical level, then to lead the way for places like NYC now making it illegal to call someone an illegal immigrant, for example. Bolsheviks from the 40s and 50s have been pushing various speech laws ever since they first overtook academia, and no matter how many Supreme Court rulings overturn them, they just come back for more. It would be lovely if violations of the 1A and 2A garnered the same accusations of treason that "foreign collusion" did.
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HamburgerBoy
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It's also a felony to print an image containing a swastika and post it to a public bulletin board, or to use chalk to draw a swastika on a public sidewalk or playground.
https://reason.com/2019/09/30/new-york-city-illegal-aliens-fine-free-speech/
https://patch.com/new-york/harrison/arrest-made-over-hitler-posters-put-purchase-college
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/27/us/12-year-old-arrested-swastikas-playground/index.html
Chicago was like this in the 50s through 80s but for whatever reason (probably banking) the Jews decided to just bolster their NYC support rather than pushing this specific agenda on a national level. In two generations when all the boomers are dead and the kids raised on social justice are now experts on the bench, you can probably expect some very creative interpretations of freedom of speech.
https://reason.com/2019/09/30/new-york-city-illegal-aliens-fine-free-speech/
https://patch.com/new-york/harrison/arrest-made-over-hitler-posters-put-purchase-college
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/27/us/12-year-old-arrested-swastikas-playground/index.html
Chicago was like this in the 50s through 80s but for whatever reason (probably banking) the Jews decided to just bolster their NYC support rather than pushing this specific agenda on a national level. In two generations when all the boomers are dead and the kids raised on social justice are now experts on the bench, you can probably expect some very creative interpretations of freedom of speech.
Dak
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https://www.takimag.com/article/an-ill-defined-petition/
Masterpiece.
In response to HBB, yes, we are headed for a crack-up-boom I'm afraid. Balkanization or bloodywar are in the future (or both). The Dems are "Electing a new electorate" and also in control of the brainwashing organs of the Cathedral. Many are resistant but they aren't reproducing in great enough quantities.
Masterpiece.
In response to HBB, yes, we are headed for a crack-up-boom I'm afraid. Balkanization or bloodywar are in the future (or both). The Dems are "Electing a new electorate" and also in control of the brainwashing organs of the Cathedral. Many are resistant but they aren't reproducing in great enough quantities.
Einherjar86
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They made it illegal as hate speech. So for example, if a crazed white woman screams at an Asian American calling her an “illegal,” it could be viewed as hate speech. It’s not absurd, especially if the target is an American citizen.
As far as I know, it’s not illegal to use it as official terminology, for example in court proceedings.
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I still have my fingers crossed that we bypass the potential 30 Years' War and skip straight to the Peace of Westphalia and a bunch of largely-independent, mutually-ambivalent states, where Manhattanites can speculate on derivatives on the trans-furry-marriage markets, while Dixoids institute Baptist Shariah Law and demand annual pilgrimage to the shrine of Pregnant Confederate Anne Frank, without either infringing on the others' rights.
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CiG
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That's fucking stupid. Even if I supported hate speech, that would still be stupid. It's also definitely very absurd (but perhaps not by the standards of snowflake culture).
Next step, make asking "where are you originally from" a violation of hate speech. I really don't see how progressive lawmakers and activists don't see how this kind of aggressive speech policing won't lead to much more grim returns.
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See but I don't have a problem with that. I will call people whatever they want me to and I don't give a fuck what they dress like, if they want to sport a bra then so be it. I don't see how that affects me negatively, it's like they change their name or something, so what.
However I do want people to treat each other with respect and McKinnon doesn't do that. She's hateful and selfish. Gay people have been fighting forever to have their place in society and to be proud of how they were born and then this bitch comes and tells them "mmh mh, you gotta suck on a dick too even if you're lesbian otherwise you're scum" or some nonsensical bullshit like that.
Honestly I don't follow this shit closely enough so it's possible that the community has already rejected her and that she's a one-off, I don't know.
CiG
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Like I said, I'm happy to use preferred pronouns but that's not the same as agreeing they're the opposite sex. Also, it effects you negatively once it's enforceable by law and now it's no longer a matter of social negotiation, now you're at risk legally even for honest mistakes.
But forcing society to agree they're a woman or man leads to issues like trans athletes doing combat sports with women, or destroying their professional records, and so on. I'm not sure if this has become an issue yet but I can't even imagine the horror of a transman going to prison with men.
There's a certain point where this politeness to help trans people get through society bleeds into things like stating facts being a hate crime, and your example of transwomen telling lesbians they're bigots for not wanting to date a man in a dress with a dick is another case of when this politeness bleeds into everyday life. People who hold this view about lesbians and dating preferences aren't as anomalous as you might expect either.
Dak
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Eventually the wave of trans people who simply used transitioning as a form of coping with other mental health issues is going to be its own crisis.
https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds...eking-help-to-return-to-original-sex-11827740
This has been my position for a while. Many trans persons have other mental health issues and feel out of control. Transitioning provides a temporary feeling of control. But it is not a fix and the feeling of control fades when it isn't a fix.
https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds...eking-help-to-return-to-original-sex-11827740
This has been my position for a while. Many trans persons have other mental health issues and feel out of control. Transitioning provides a temporary feeling of control. But it is not a fix and the feeling of control fades when it isn't a fix.
CiG
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There's a running meme that the number of people who regret transitioning is minuscule, and I've seen a fair amount of trans people (and non-trans "allies") repeat the claim that nobody regrets transitioning. The problem of course is that transitioning is an extremely recent phenomenon so these claims haven't really been put to the test. I think as the years go by we'll see it tested very strongly, though like the bottom text of your quote says, they're trying to do all they can to suppress it.
Dak
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Right. There's even this troubling angle of "gender affirmation" where if the person is having doubts or ambivalence the counselor will work to remove the doubt or ambivalence rather than explore with the client. They also face this ostracization. The "T" in LGBT really has no place there, and burying all differences under "queer" is pure political manipulation.
Krow
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I feel like a lot of trans people get this rush of euphoria while transitioning, this sensation of feeling “correct” but once they get older, regardless of treatments and whatnot, genetics put them in a spot where they can’t hide they’re male any more. It becomes a burden caused by an irreversible decision you made really young in life because of a mental illness.
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