only4theweak187
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IN FLAMES new album being released by the end of 2016
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Considering how it's a small setlist - they always do those in the US?! - it's pretty neat. Bullet Ride, System, Alias and Leeches making a comeback to shortened setlists is pretty dope. I bet many people would want to do away with Through Oblivion and The Truth, but the former song is great live, and the latter makes everyone chant, so it's an easy sell.
I'm pretty sure it's a small setlist because it's technically a co-headline tour with Hellyeah. So they both get about an hour. As for Through Oblivion, if they are going to do a song with slow verses, I would prefer Everything's Gone. That chorus would be awesome live.
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Midas
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My small setlist:
Minus
Biosphere
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Drained
Scorn
Take This Life
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Free Fall
Like Sand
Cloud Connected
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The Jester Race
The Inborn Lifeless
Goliaths Disarm Their Davids
The End
Minus
Biosphere
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Drained
Scorn
Take This Life
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Free Fall
Like Sand
Cloud Connected
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The Jester Race
The Inborn Lifeless
Goliaths Disarm Their Davids
The End
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Nice wishlist. Minus is a great song on RtR and would be a great opener. If only the album production was better it would stand well with earlier songs.
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Well I found the alternate version of Here Until Forever. You guys can download it from here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6b9covnx...er (Alternate Version) (Bonus Track).mp3?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6b9covnx...er (Alternate Version) (Bonus Track).mp3?dl=0
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Damn I actually quite liked it. More like a weird ballad. Still like original one a bit better, more powerful, but it's a cool twist and I think his vocals sound good here, and it's a bit acapella-ish. You can hear some cool ambient keyboards and other stuff plus the choir is much more audible as well. Like the guitar melody at 1:40, I couldn't really hear that before, now when I listen to the original version again, I can hear it all of a sudden. I wish In Flames had their ambient/atmospheric keyboard parts in the background just a bit more audible cause there are some good shit in songs you can barely hear, like the Sober and Irrelevant outro. That's why I love Worlds Within the Margin, the verses are just sick, keyboards, drums, bass and beast vocals. The bridge before the last chorus also has very nice keyboards. Can't think of another In Flames song at the moment with keyboard ''lead'' like that, anyone know? Maybe one of the older ones.
Guess it's more Örjan's style, having bits and pieces of stuff in the background that you can barely hear or is hard to distinguish apart from everything else. It is nice though when you all of a sudden hear something in the backround somewhere after listening to a song for a year already.
Guess it's more Örjan's style, having bits and pieces of stuff in the background that you can barely hear or is hard to distinguish apart from everything else. It is nice though when you all of a sudden hear something in the backround somewhere after listening to a song for a year already.
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Nope, had forgot that.
Fixed the list.
Edit: krofius is right, I can't know for sure if they are MIDI drums.
As for the other version... I fell asleep a few times. Literally. The drums woke me up though. They sound horrible.
Minus
Biosphere
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Drained
Scorn
Take This Life
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Free Fall
Like Sand
Cloud Connected
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The Jester Race
The Inborn Lifeless
Goliaths Disarm Their Davids
The End
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I'm very satisfied with this version. And relieved. Overall the song has grown on me but the number 1 issue I personally still have with the original is the loud but bland guitars during the chorus. Basically this version strips that out. They could have done more to change it up but it's enough to me.
I do like the guitar riff (or is it bass?) at 2:22, I wish that was a little louder. It seems louder in the original but it's audible enough. I can't have everything in the world, lol.
Definitely my preferred version.
Edit: Man, I missed that they had gotten rid of the intro, though. I do miss that, wish they would have kept that somehow. It always gives me a "doomy" vibe.
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Yeah the alternate version felt like they added instruments as the song went along. They added a distant distorted guitar at the end. Drums didn't come in until after first chorus. I don't think the drums sound MIDI at all, I however in this version don't love the snare sound though. But it can't be worse than the snare on Whoracle, and Whoracle is my favorite album so it's not really a make or break thing.
Yagami it doesn't matter how much you THINK it sounds like programmed drums, when it isn't. Joe recorded drums on the album. Unless it's a big fat conspiracy where everyone is lying about someone playing an instrument on an album while it secretly is programmed.
*tips tinfoil hat*
Btw for anyone wondering, the song that Niclas has writing credits on are:
1. Drained
2. The End
3. Like Sand
9. Here Until Forever
11. Wallflower
13. Greatest Greed
Yagami it doesn't matter how much you THINK it sounds like programmed drums, when it isn't. Joe recorded drums on the album. Unless it's a big fat conspiracy where everyone is lying about someone playing an instrument on an album while it secretly is programmed.
*tips tinfoil hat*
Btw for anyone wondering, the song that Niclas has writing credits on are:
1. Drained
2. The End
3. Like Sand
9. Here Until Forever
11. Wallflower
13. Greatest Greed
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Just listened again with headphones this time, you are right about the instrumentation and the guitars coming back in. I still miss that intro riff on the original but I think I do like this version more.
Agree that little guitar or keyboard part is a nice touch at 1:40. I like the vocal harmony at 1:50 even more (liked the original too of course) -- maybe my favorite part of the song. I guess vocal harmonies are even harder to recreate live than the guitar harmonies but wouldn't it be awesome if they started doing them more?
Honestly Anders' vocals on this album are really a step up. Maybe it's the pro tools, maybe it's the coach, maybe it's doing 50 cuts of every line, but it's really good.
Agree that little guitar or keyboard part is a nice touch at 1:40. I like the vocal harmony at 1:50 even more (liked the original too of course) -- maybe my favorite part of the song. I guess vocal harmonies are even harder to recreate live than the guitar harmonies but wouldn't it be awesome if they started doing them more?
Honestly Anders' vocals on this album are really a step up. Maybe it's the pro tools, maybe it's the coach, maybe it's doing 50 cuts of every line, but it's really good.
Interesting. The first 50 seconds of Greatest Greed sounds like it was pulled 100% from an Engelin album, no surprise on that one.
The cymbals are what get me. I don't know what they did but they sound compressed and terrible.
Through My Eyes (chorus especially)
Here Until Forever (intro, chorus)
They are downright distracting. Whatever the issue is I think we can agree they don't sound good.
Could just be the mixing and mastering process I guess. We've already discussed a bunch of those issues, it's like they ran out of time and money at the end or something. Like they couldn't get the mastering guy to pull one last all nighter.
Through My Eyes (chorus especially)
Here Until Forever (intro, chorus)
They are downright distracting. Whatever the issue is I think we can agree they don't sound good.
Could just be the mixing and mastering process I guess. We've already discussed a bunch of those issues, it's like they ran out of time and money at the end or something. Like they couldn't get the mastering guy to pull one last all nighter.
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If the drums are programmed, they sound like shit. If they aren't, they sound like shit.
Either way, they sound like shit. CJ needs to up his game for the next album, if he makes it that far.
Either way, they sound like shit. CJ needs to up his game for the next album, if he makes it that far.
