Is Braveheart the best movie of all time?
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No! Fellini's 8 1/2 is the best movie ever hands down. As for hollywood movies, Id say Lawrence of Arabia- excellent story,acting, and the best cinematography of any hollywood movie.
Its a good movie, even if historically embellished.
Its a good movie, even if historically embellished.
No.
Looking back on it, the film's screenplay is kind of cliched and the same formula was used for The Patriot the following year.
The acting wasn't great, either. And, couldn't Mel tell the woman that was playing his wife to keep her mouth closed at least half of the time that she was onscreen?
Sheesh!
Looking back on it, the film's screenplay is kind of cliched and the same formula was used for The Patriot the following year.
The acting wasn't great, either. And, couldn't Mel tell the woman that was playing his wife to keep her mouth closed at least half of the time that she was onscreen?
Sheesh!
None_So_Vile
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It's an utter pile of inaccurate shit.
For starters, rather than being a poor, man-of-the-people whose aim was to lead a raggle-taggle brigade of proud Scosts to freedom, William Wallace was actually a landed commoner with a good education, whose primary motive for fighting the Brits was protecting his own property. The film also shows Wallace bequeathing a son to the English Princess Isabella. In reality, however, not only did the two never meet, but Isabella didn't marry until 1308 - 3 years after Wallace's execution and her son wasn't born until 1312. And rather than the delicate humanist of the film, Isabella was a bloodthirsty harridan who later had her husband murdered, before launching her own invasion of Scotland.
Almost every detail of the battle is incorrect, with Robert the Bruce siding with the English King, dispite no historical records placing Bruce at the battle. Similarily fantastical are the scenes in which the Scottish nobles desert Wallace, and the Irish troops turn against the English.
To Cap it all, the blue face-paint which became the enduring image of the film had actually gone out of style with the Celts some thousand years earlier.
It's just another big budget Americanised heap of historically inaccurate gobshite, glorified to make things more interesting at the expense of much needed accuracy if you're going to touch a subject that still fires people up today
For starters, rather than being a poor, man-of-the-people whose aim was to lead a raggle-taggle brigade of proud Scosts to freedom, William Wallace was actually a landed commoner with a good education, whose primary motive for fighting the Brits was protecting his own property. The film also shows Wallace bequeathing a son to the English Princess Isabella. In reality, however, not only did the two never meet, but Isabella didn't marry until 1308 - 3 years after Wallace's execution and her son wasn't born until 1312. And rather than the delicate humanist of the film, Isabella was a bloodthirsty harridan who later had her husband murdered, before launching her own invasion of Scotland.
Almost every detail of the battle is incorrect, with Robert the Bruce siding with the English King, dispite no historical records placing Bruce at the battle. Similarily fantastical are the scenes in which the Scottish nobles desert Wallace, and the Irish troops turn against the English.
To Cap it all, the blue face-paint which became the enduring image of the film had actually gone out of style with the Celts some thousand years earlier.
It's just another big budget Americanised heap of historically inaccurate gobshite, glorified to make things more interesting at the expense of much needed accuracy if you're going to touch a subject that still fires people up today
Gladiator is far worse, My Classics Prof, was an advisor on gladiatorial fghts etc, but once he saw some of the script he asked to have his name taken off the entire production. He was quite the celebrity when the movie came out. Braveheart is an excellent movie that had thoughts and ideas that really were quite foreign until the later renaissance; freedom, conscience, nationalism, freedom of love etc. These ideas realy werent prevalent until the 1400's, and only in Italy- later in northern europe. So the central theme of the movie is at least 150 years too early.
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None_So_Vile said:
IIRC There's two folk-tales about Wallace. First of them was written down some time after his death and was a bit more accurate. The other was made up by some minstrel in 1500's and he made up all the stuff about the princess and gave more glory to Wallace than supposed to just to make the story more entertaining. The film is based on this latter legend, and it should be seen as such, a legend, not an accurate historical documentary.
