Is Graveland Racist?

[Draehl]

i generally just use liberal logic as counterpoint/devil's advocate for non-liberals who, more often than not, are even more lacking in perspective (not to mention empathy)

Probably true, though I think true conservatives/libertarians often are perceived as lacking in empathy, when its simply their view that government shouldn't be the solution and these issues (that they may in fact be empathetic about) should simply be outside of the purview of government, regardless of the group. IE neither corporations/rich OR poor should be getting handouts or special treatment. The role of the government is to simply maintain basic law (patents, anti-trusts, contracts enforcement, etc), order, transportation, national defense and should be involved in little else. This view shits all over both modern Republican and Democratic policy but I feel generally pushes humanity just a little closer back to survival of the fittest where modern corruption can play less of a role and good ideas and policies can flourish.

But yeah, personally I'm definitely lacking in empathy. Do no harm and do no good outside of friends/family.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

i'm not immune to the idea that the archetypal liberal worldview is deeply short-sighted and egotistical, as folks who i remember my posts in the olden days will testify lol. hell, just spending an hour debating with your average set of twitter or college liberals should be enough to alert anyone to that possibility. i generally just use liberal logic as counterpoint/devil's advocate for non-liberals who, more often than not, are even more lacking in perspective (not to mention empathy).

I'm quite liberal myself; I'm just opposed to extreme moonbattery.

On a completely different note, I have a question regarding people that disparage "Social Justice Warriors" (as Mort said, this is a silly buzzword that makes you a fucking moron if you use it without a semblance of irony) without getting totally irate; instead falling back on comedic non-sequitirs to avoid the issue. I would completely accept that it's a fucking heavy metal forum, not the appropriate venue to discuss such matters and agree; but I see this happen in real life all of the time.

Oh, there's plenty of irony in the term "Social Justice Warrior"; it's just not the irony you had in mind. You can say it's a silly buzzword all you like, but one could easily argue the same about the term "fundie". Christian fundamentalists certainly would, I imagine, but that's simply because they hate being called fundies.

However, since a SJW is basically a social justice fundie; so, henceforth, I will retire the former term from my vocabulary in favour of the latter.

If I actually tried to quote and respond to all the fucked up views I've read over the last few pages, the internet would collapse. Actually, UM probably just wouldn't let me post it because it would be too long.

That speaks more to your garrulousness than anything else.

 

[Einherjar86]

My garrulousness? My loquaciousness? My verbosity? Yes, yes, I write quite a bit.

I think it speaks to the amount of dumb shit posted in this thread that it can't all be dealt with in one garrulous response.

 

[Funerary_Doom]

Man, don't come for Ein.

I actually have a response for SS's long rant. I'll have to get to it later, but he does make some interesting points that I do agree with like the lack of community/leadership in some nonwhite communities. I'll have to get to it later.

 

[SentinelSlain]

I didn't know I said anything about that. If I'm talking about direction, I mean it in regards to "the West" and Western culture in general.

 

[Dak]

Talk of "racism" is just another example of the isms created and foisted upon women by the patriarchy to divide and distract them from their common womanness so that they fight amongst themselves rather than attacking the real common enemy of all womankind - Man! Distinctions of class, race, "gender", politics, etc are all clever lies handed down from the patriarchy. SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER!

 

[Funerary_Doom]

Personally, I associate that with what I call false ethnocentrism. False because it does nothing to further the real interests of the relevant ethnic group. It's a bit like ISIS. They wont create a lasting caliphate that helps all of the Muslims in the world, they'll just do things that lead to Muslims dying and having miserable lives.Well, where are all of the Black American doctors, lawyers, scientists, engineers, politicians etc, sending millions of money to Africa, pressuring the government to pump more aid into Africa? Black people make up about 10 times a greater percentage of the US population than the Jews, so why not?
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You hint at the lack of leadership in these ethnic groups here tbh.

Also, there were other things but Id need my computer and not my phone.

 

[SentinelSlain]

Talk of "racism" is just another example of the isms created and foisted upon women by the patriarchy to divide and distract them from their common womanness so that they fight amongst themselves rather than attacking the real common enemy of all womankind - Man! Distinctions of class, race, "gender", politics, etc are all clever lies handed down from the patriarchy. SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER!

SCUM