Israel VS. The Arab World

[Hell_Awaits]

what is g8? i was watching the news and they kept talking about it.

Its a meeting where the 8 largest economies get together and plot world domination.

 

[gaschamber]

Its a meeting where the 8 largest economies get together and plot world domination.

well if the world is going to be dominated, im glad to be in a dominating country.

 

[Patrick R.]

Ermmmmm, yeah, I think all those peace-loving tolerant Kykes who pull the strings in your Government absolutely give a fuck.

On no…they preach peace and diversity for America but then demand Israel to be racially separated! Palestinians lived in what is now Israel for centuries until Zionist thugs deliberately pushed them from their homes and business and they are forbidden to return all for the hope of creating a ‘Jewish state’.

Wanna know why the sand my pals hate the USA? Because they see the USA and Israel as being one and the same.

We have given them ample reason to think so...however Israel has committed terrorism against the United States, with the Lavon Affair they sent Israeli terrorist to blow up American installations in Egypt to try to make America fight them on Israel’s side and the USS Liberty the Israeli jets bombed that ship trying to make it sink but that failed as well! This is the same Israel that has received billions of US tax dollars! The sad thing is they still receive billions of our tax dollars…this is only the beginning of the madness.

 

[Patrick R.]

Exactamundo...give this man a fish.

If it wasn't for the entanglement of Christianity and Judaism, we would have probably bombed the area to kingdom come long ago. When I was young and brash, I asked my dad why we don't just bury thermonuclear devices in the ground, pull our troops and turn the entire region into a sea of glass...he told me that it's because the whole region is where the "final battle" of Armageddon will take place and where Christ will return. This whole bullshit struggle in the Middle East is all about that.

Religion had very little to do with the formation of Israel, the “Jewish state”…Israel exist because European Jews didn’t want to assimilate with Europeans so the decided they started a movement known as Zionism and that movement ensured that the Jews would be a majority in Palestine so then it would become de facto Israel.

In fact, the father of modern Zionism Theodore Herzl was agnostic and Zionism itself was a very non religious movement and it was explicitly racial…but that is how they were able to get many Jews over there, with the argument that it “was the Jews who lived there first” and it is there “biblical homeland” but the bible makes it clear that they came in through genocide and it appears they returned through genocide.

I mean, fuck...you have the Christian Bible that says to beware when peace comes to the Middle East. Shit, they even say that the person who brings peace to the region is the "Antichrist".

So the whole problem is that you have people who really want peace there, but you have the kooks who continue the violence because to have peace is to usher in the end times....it's like the United States and Israel are holding back Armageddon.

Read "The Great & Secret Show" by Clive Barker...one of the characters, Kissoon, is holding back a moment in time by sheer force of will. This is exactly what we're doing. Holding back the moment that Christians believe is the end of days.

Some Christian faiths want the end to come...but I believe that there is a secret sect that is working behind the scenes to ensure that peace NEVER comes the Middle East because they are scared of "The Beast".

The Zionist love the religious argument because it takes away attention from the real issue of Mid East conflicts…and the real reason for the instability that plagues that region is because of pure Zionist aggression from their ethnic mass murder of women and children to rape and the destruction of Lebanon and their nuclear and biological weapons etc etc…all these factors are the real reason for turmoil, it isn’t biblical.

 

[Evil Dead]

well if the world is going to be dominated, im glad to be in a dominating country.

word nigga

 

[Evil Dead]

I think Israel should just skip to the end game, & nuke Iran and Syria.

 

[Arg_Hamster]

Its a meeting where the 8 largest economies get together and plot world domination.

The chimp, Putin the ninja and assorted assholes!

 

[Dr Demented]

Religion had very little to do with the formation of Israel, the “Jewish state”…Israel exist because European Jews didn’t want to assimilate with Europeans so the decided they started a movement known as Zionism and that movement ensured that the Jews would be a majority in Palestine so then it would become de facto Israel.

I wasn't talking about the "formation" of Israel...we all know that it was formed because we didn't want them swarming to America and Europe was tired of them....

The Zionist love the religious argument because it takes away attention from the real issue of Mid East conflicts…and the real reason for the instability that plagues that region is because of pure Zionist aggression from their ethnic mass murder of women and children to rape and the destruction of Lebanon and their nuclear and biological weapons etc etc…all these factors are the real reason for turmoil, it isn’t biblical.

I think maybe you're reading too much into what I was saying...BUT you have to admit that what you're describing would be the perfect way to perpetuate the violence. Every time someone talks about peace, some other fuck comes along and rapes, shoots or bombs some innocents...and the whole war is back on again...there can't be peace there because someone is holding their finger in the dyke...and it's not Ellen Degenerate.

Think about it....
:zombie:

 

[Patrick R.]

I wasn't talking about the "formation" of Israel...we all know that it was formed because we didn't want them swarming to America and Europe was tired of them....

I know that, you were talking about how your dad said that region is where the ‘final battle’ of Armageddon will take place which is what a lot of people think…I have heard several people repeat that absurd story but the reality is much different for religion has little to do with what is going on over there, it is mainly about the Jews living on stolen land from the Palestinians and their brutal treatment toward them in the occupied areas…that is what this is all about, not ‘Armageddon’.

I think maybe you're reading too much into what I was saying...BUT you have to admit that what you're describing would be the perfect way to perpetuate the violence. Every time someone talks about peace, some other fuck comes along and rapes, shoots or bombs some innocents...and the whole war is back on again...there can't be peace there because someone is holding their finger in the dyke...and it's not Ellen Degenerate.

Think about it....
:zombie:

It depends on how they talk about ‘peace’…if they are biased and demand that the Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world see Israel’s right to exist then that peace plan will go down the drain but if the Zionist would stop there crimes against humanity and stop invading their neighbors then and only then can we discuss peace…Zionist extremism and their control over America’s government and media is the reason why there is such international stability.

However you did make a good point about when one person talks about peace another comes along and basically sabotages it…with Ariel Sharon sent death squads into Palestinian refugee camps of Chatila and Sabra and had over 1000 refugees killed after America ‘guaranteed’ their freedom…that inflamed the Arabs and that ruined any form of peace but yet this Jewish extremist was invited to the white house! Just goes to show the Jewish control over American political life.

 

[DeathsHead]

I think Israel should just skip to the end game, & nuke Iran and Syria.

The problem with that is that once Israel launches someone else will launch, then another then another and by the end of the day it will really be the end of the day

 

[stuglue]

Its true. I had a Lebanese girlfriend for a while (biggest melons I've ever seen on a girl, Arab or otherwise

Photographic evidence please buddy

 

[Billenzimmer]

I don't even pretend to fully understand all the factors involved, but every day I watch the news and the escalation of the Israel/ Hezbollah war sickens me.
Even in this day and age, people still fight over money and the resulting power, often in the name of one god over another.
Frankly, I think the attack/ invasion of Lebanon by the Israelis has been far too excessive. Where else in the world would it be tolerated to start bombing civilian areas after the kidnapping of two soldiers?
On a side note, Im not sure if the US actually provided Israel with nuclear weapons (which they officially don't have), but I do know they have a continuing "we don't ask and they don't tell" agreement

 

[Evil Dead]

I don't even pretend to fully understand all the factors involved, but every day I watch the news and the escalation of the Israel/ Hezbollah war sickens me.
Even in this day and age, people still fight over money and the resulting power, often in the name of one god over another.
Frankly, I think the attack/ invasion of Lebanon by the Israelis has been far too excessive. Where else in the world would it be tolerated to start bombing civilian areas after the kidnapping of two soldiers?
On a side note, Im not sure if the US actually provided Israel with nuclear weapons (which they officially don't have), but I do know they have a continuing "we don't ask and they don't tell" agreement

word

 

[IAN442]

This is what i found on another forum,,,and i thought it would post it here becuase this is about the only real solution to this..

Arab culture is based on goofy assed maculinity.

Ah, that is because we are using "kid gloves".

You are one of the people who whined and cried over Gitmo and Abu Gharib are you not?

Ever hear the saying "Careful what you wish for"?

Had all of the hand-wringing, bed-wetting, no-stomach-for-a-fight, do-not-understand-the-true-nature-of-war Liberal cry babies and their lackeys in the media not gotten in our way and interfered, perhaps we could put our boots on the throats of those that deserve it.

Instead we have to be "held to a higher standard" than the type of animals that cut off people's head - people who do not respect life or follow any set of rules - people who are ruthless and have to be dealt with on a ruthless basis if you wish to even have the slightest chance to defeat them.

This is not an Iraq issue.

This is not a Bush issue.

This is a clash of cultures issue.

You have "civilized" people trying to deal with barbarians in a "civilized" manner.

Sorry, but it just won't work.

We are our own undoing - insisting on following a set of rules to which our enemies will never adhere.

Once we have been hit hard enough...

Once we feel enough pain...

Once we have been rocked to our core...

Only then enough will enough Americans tell all of the whiners and naysayers to shut the hell up, tell the "international community" to shove it, and demand of their government to unleash the raw, hellish power that this nation still has stored in what too many people falsely believe are long atrophied muscles and "get medieval" on those who are medieval in their thoughts and beliefs.

This is not about who can emerge with the most dignity intact.

This is about who will emerge - period.

Until we find the will to knock the enemy to the ground, put our foot on his throat, thrust a rusty, dull knife into his chest, carve out his beating heart, take a vicious, growling bite from it and then spit the bloody flesh into the enemy's face before he expires, we will not prevail.

I do not use the words "primal rage" by accident.

One day, and I fear it is not too far into the future, you will come to understand what I am speaking of deep in your heart and your soul as you feel the righteous anger that will lead you to near-madness.

Then and only then will you have the will to win.

God help us then; but even more important, God help those who oppose us when that happens.

 

[Hell_Awaits]

so whats the solution

 

[Hell_Awaits]

I don't even pretend to fully understand all the factors involved, but every day I watch the news and the escalation of the Israel/ Hezbollah war sickens me.
Even in this day and age, people still fight over money and the resulting power, often in the name of one god over another.
Frankly, I think the attack/ invasion of Lebanon by the Israelis has been far too excessive. Where else in the world would it be tolerated to start bombing civilian areas after the kidnapping of two soldiers?
On a side note, Im not sure if the US actually provided Israel with nuclear weapons (which they officially don't have), but I do know they have a continuing "we don't ask and they don't tell" agreement

were else would Isreal have aquired the nuclear weapons

 

[DeathsHead]

were else would Isreal have aquired the nuclear weapons

They got them from the only country pretty much on earth that cares(not sure if that word truly applies in the literal sense) about their survival--the US

 

[fah-q]

Wanna know why the sand my pals hate the USA? Because they see the USA and Israel as being one and the same. [/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

They see us as being one and the same because we are. We are on the side of Democracy. Here is some things to think about before you assume that the US is pulling the strings in Israel or that Israel has no cause to act as they are.

-Israel is the focus of 65 UN resolutions. Palestine is the focus of NONE.

-UN resolution 1559 called for Lebanon to establish its sovereignty over all of its land and It called upon Syria to end their military presence in Lebanon by withdrawing its forces and to cease intervening in internal Lebanese politics. The resolution also called on all Lebanese militias to disband. - NONE of this has happened.

-Of the 65 UN resolutions involving Israel, none have been violated by Israel.
-Hezbollah has complied with NONE of the UN resolutions levied against them.
-Iran, Palestine, Syria and Lebanon continually violate the terms of UN resolutions they are involved in. We rarely hear about that and, when we do, the mainstream media blows over it.
-Israel has sat there quietly for years while Muslim countries punk them and defy signed treaties. How long does Israel have to sit there and take it before finally taking matters into their own hands? The UN has failed them.
-Don't automatically lump the US in with Israel. They have a mighty fighting force not because we back them. They are mighty because they are one of the US military's biggest customers.
Just my 2cents, if it is even worth that much.
Have a nice day.

 

[Patrick R.]

Wanna know why the sand my pals hate the USA? Because they see the USA and Israel as being one and the same. [/SIZE][/COLOR]

They see us as being one and the same because we are. We are on the side of Democracy. Here is some things to think about before you assume that the US is pulling the strings in Israel or that Israel has no cause to act as they are.

Call it whatever you like democracy are not we are still support Israeli terrorism and their ethnic cleansing, which is a war crime, Israel and America aren’t above the law.

-UN resolution 1559 called for Lebanon to establish its sovereignty over all of its land and It called upon Syria to end their military presence in Lebanon by withdrawing its forces and to cease intervening in internal Lebanese politics. The resolution also called on all Lebanese militias to disband. - NONE of this has happened.

It sure was! Guess what that resolution was about? To put an end to Hezbollah! Lets not forget why Hezbollah was created! It was created after Israel’s invasion of Lebanon in 1983 which killed over 15,000 Lebanese and destroyed billions of dollars of property and destroyed their capital Beirut which was a beautiful city…so why doesn’t Israel’s army disband? After all it was Zionist thugs that murdered at raped their way to independence.

-Of the 65 UN resolutions involving Israel, none have been violated by Israel.

HO HO yes they have, for 35 years Israel has violated Resolution 242, a UN resolution that demanded that Israel leave the occupied West Bank, a resolution that was even supported by the United States…there have been 40 UN resolutions against Israel since 1972, which would have passed if not for the US casting the only blocking vote. That is why the Arab world hates the American government, they see our government supporting their murderous oppressors.

-Hezbollah has complied with NONE of the UN resolutions levied against them.
-Iran, Palestine, Syria and Lebanon continually violate the terms of UN resolutions they are involved in. We rarely hear about that and, when we do, the mainstream media blows over it.

What are you talking about the ‘mainstream media blows it over’! We always here, every damn day about how bad the Muslims are and how great the Israelis! With Iran, their was NO proof that they were even trying to build a nuclear bomb but yet the ‘American’ media and government was trying to scare us into a war with Iran just for the nuclear enrichment program!

Well, Israel has an estimated 200 hydrogen bombs that could destroy much of Europe and the Middle East and they have been attacking other countries (including the United States) from the very beginning! So what makes them so special that they can attack countries and have stock piles of nuclear and biological weapons meanwhile the United Sates destroyed Iraq for weapons they didn’t even have!


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Israel has sat there quietly for years while Muslim countries punk them and defy signed treaties. How long does Israel have to sit there and take it before finally taking matters into their own hands? The UN has failed them.

HO HO! Sat there quietly for years? What about Israel’s brutal military occupation over a million Palestinians since the six day war? What about Israel’s terrorist attacks upon American instillations in Egypt? What about Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty? What about Israel’s torture 100,000’s of Palestinians (even during peace time)? What about Israel’s kidnappings of women and children? What about Israel invasion of Lebanon that destroyed their capital and killed thousands of their civilians? What about Israel’s crimes against humanity by sending Death squads into Palestinian refugee camps?

Now over two dumb soldiers they are destroy and entire nation! That this is so shouldn’t be surprising! After all Israel came into existence by robbing an entire nation through murder and terror! So Israel hasn’t’ ‘sat quietly for years’! On the contrary, they have been a constant threat to international stability for years.

-Don't automatically lump the US in with Israel. They have a mighty fighting force not because we back them. They are mighty because they are one of the US military's biggest customers.
Just my 2cents, if it is even worth that much.
Have a nice day.

That is just nonsense, those are US made tanks, bombs, and F-16’s over there! That is American science that is killing scores of innocent people! Billions of our own tax dollars have been sent to Israel and Americans still have to pay that place billions of dollars! Hey maybe all this money and science could go back to Americans maybe? No! I guess Israel is more important! Well for our politicians Israel is.

 

[fah-q]

Hezbollah is not a country, they are a group within the country. Not unlike the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Millions of innocent people getting killed? War crimes? What war crimes has the us committed in Israel defending itself?
Please try to pay attention. When I stated that Israel was one of our best customers, I was pointing out that their military is built on US technology.

The US gov't are war criminals for selling arms? That is ridiculous ideology. That same kind of ignorance has guns being banned in parts of the us.

How can you call Israel terrorists? If they really are terrorists, then Hezbollah, Iran and Syria must be satan himself. (assuming he is a man, I don't want to offend the females out there)

We could go back and forth on this forever. Obviously, you support Muslims and terrorists and I do not. Good luck with that.
Have a nice day.