Nancy Pelosi, the botoxed wonder

[SueNC]

this guy says it best:

Madame Traitor:
An Arab-American's Perspective on Pelosi in Damascus

Dear Rebecca,

Madame Traitor: An Arab-American's Perspective on Pelosi in Damascus

By Emilio Karim Dabul

Nancy Pelosi is to world diplomacy what Michael Jordan was to baseball: completely forgettable and unnecessary. But unlike Michael's slightly amusing foray into the Babe's world, there's nothing funny about Pelosi in Damascus. The terrorists and their supporters, who are always looking for weak links and signs that the US does not have the will or backbone to win the war we're fighting with them, just found a great ally in Madame Speaker.


Among the older members of my extended Syrian family, there was a general attitude that kindness equaled weakness. It wasn't that they didn't believe in charity, but that it must be parceled out carefully, because those of ill intent can be quick to take advantage of those they perceive to be gullible and soft. This is what Nancy Pelosi either doesn't understand, or doesn't care about: she's being used by the very people who want to destroy us in another round of window dressing, subterfuge, and deceit. I suspect that Pelosi knows this, but is more intent on trying to undermine the President than in looking at how she could best support national security.


Let's look at the record. Syria has admitted that it has financially supported Hezbollah and Hamas, but says that it doesn't supply them with arms. What's the difference? What do you think these groups buy with the money? How many Israeli and Lebanese men, women and children have been slaughtered because of Syrian backing of these groups? And who do you think Syria supports across the border in Iraq: our troops or the terrorists some blithely refer to as "insurgents"? Without the direct involvement of Syria and Iran, the current terrorism movement in Iraq would have considerably less groundswell.


Pelosi might respond that she's aware of all that, but that she's simply taking James Baker's advice to talk with your enemies. Well, here's the problem: Baker's wrong. Talking to the Syrians has never accomplished anything. They correctly read the signs a long time ago that there would be no real consequences for continuing to support Arab and Islamic terrorist groups. And Pelosi has proven them right again: bend us and we will break.


This needs to stop. Syria and Iran need to know in a very real way that if they continue to support terrorism, they will experience the full wrath of the United States. And there cannot be any negotiating when it comes to this. Moammar Gadhafi -remember that boogeyman?-backed off when we bombed his palace in Libya. Gadhafi's two-year-old adopted daughter died in that raid, which was a terrible tragedy, particularly since he was the one with blood on his hands, not her. Still, Gadhafi crawled back into his hole, and retreated even further when we invaded Iraq, making a public show of acquiescence to the US. He may be crazy, but he's not stupid.


Syria and Iran need to be given fair warning to cease and desist all support of terrorist activities, prove they're doing so, and if they don't, be held to account.


Damascus and Tehran will continue to taunt and undermine us, and the UK, until they know they can't. Assad would be a lot less likely to cut checks for terrorists if he knew it could cost him his job or his life. And the same is true of the little guy in the leisure suit over in Iran. This is what they both understand and respect: force, not treaties and tea.


And Pelosi would probably be adverse to hang out with these guys if she knew F-18s might be approaching. Charging her with treason in the meantime would be appropriate. If the Speaker of the House during the Vietnam War had broken bread with Cambodian leaders, the public would have demanded his resignation and the most severe punishment possible for such a crime. And yet when Nancy Pelosi sits down with our enemies' collaborators, she's given a pass, even praised by those who cheer on any action that goes against the President. Al Jazerra is probably her biggest fan right now, next to the New York Times.


The problem is she's not just hurting the President, she's betraying our troops, and everyone around the world at risk to terrorist attacks, which is most of us.


We should not let her get away with it. We need to hold Pelosi responsible for her actions, as well as Syria and Iran. The three of them have more than proven their status as enemies of the United States.

***

Emilio Dabul is a Contributing Editor for American Congress for Truth.com. He is a Syrian-American of Muslim heritage and a Middle East commentator.

 

[Hell_Awaits]

this guy says it best:

how is this treason?.......Is everyone in her delagtion a traitor?

 

[fah-q]

how is this treason?.......Is everyone in her delagtion a traitor?

-The current administration has frozen all high level contacts with Syria. Being only twice removed from the presidency, I think she qualifies.
-Weren't most of the 19 terrorists directly involved in 9/11 from Syria?
-Visiting a terrorist nation and meeting with it's leaders is bad enough. Telling those terrorists that she is speaking on behalf of Israel is unacceptable.
-Congress' job is not to engage in the application of US foreign policy. That is the Executive Branch's job. Condi Rice is the Secretary of State, Not Pelosi.

Before you point out that Republican Congressmen have been to Syria, consider the fact that nobody is calling for any of the other 9 or 10 congressmen who went. 8 or 9 of which are Democrat. Pelosi is being called to the carpet because she is the Speaker of the House. It should also be noted that no other congressmen who visited Syria has tried to introduce a new diplomatic initiative.
Assad is a terrorist who is playing nice with Pelosi to try and stave off UN sanctions for his orchestrating the murder of Lebanese PM al-Hariri.

Basically, her actions are mutiny. Not much different than treason, eh? The word treason is tossed around so eagerly these days. It has kind of lost its meaning.

 

[fah-q]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Pelosi committed a felony on her trip to Syria. She violated the Logan Act.
"The Logan Act makes it a felony and provides for a prison sentence of up to three years for any American, "without authority of the United States," to communicate with a foreign government in an effort to influence that government's behavior on any "disputes or controversies with the United States." Some background on this statute helps to understand why Ms. Pelosi may be in serious trouble.

President John Adams requested the statute after a Pennsylvania pacifist named George Logan traveled to France in 1798 to assure the French government that the American people favored peace in the undeclared "Quasi War" being fought on the high seas between the two countries. In proposing the law, Rep. Roger Griswold of Connecticut explained that the object was, as recorded in the Annals of Congress, "to punish a crime which goes to the destruction of the executive power of the government. He meant that description of crime which arises from an interference of individual citizens in the negotiations of our executive with foreign governments."

The debate on this bill ran nearly 150 pages in the Annals. On Jan. 16, 1799, Rep. Isaac Parker of Massachusetts explained, "the people of the United States have given to the executive department the power to negotiate with foreign governments, and to carry on all foreign relations, and that it is therefore an usurpation of that power for an individual to undertake to correspond with any foreign power on any dispute between the two governments, or for any state government, or any other department of the general government, to do it."

Griswold and Parker were Federalists who believed in strong executive power. But consider this statement by Albert Gallatin, the future Secretary of the Treasury under President Thomas Jefferson, who was wary of centralized government: "it would be extremely improper for a member of this House to enter into any correspondence with the French Republic . . . As we are not at war with France, an offence of this kind would not be high treason, yet it would be as criminal an act, as if we were at war." Indeed, the offense is greater when the usurpation of the president's constitutional authority is done by a member of the legislature--all the more so by a Speaker of the House--because it violates not just statutory law but constitutes a usurpation of the powers of a separate branch and a breach of the oath of office Ms. Pelosi took to support the Constitution"

 

[Hell_Awaits]

-The current administration has frozen all high level contacts with Syria. Being only twice removed from the presidency, I think she qualifies.
-Weren't most of the 19 terrorists directly involved in 9/11 from Syria?
-Visiting a terrorist nation and meeting with it's leaders is bad enough. Telling those terrorists that she is speaking on behalf of Israel is unacceptable.
-Congress' job is not to engage in the application of US foreign policy. That is the Executive Branch's job. Condi Rice is the Secretary of State, Not Pelosi.

Before you point out that Republican Congressmen have been to Syria, consider the fact that nobody is calling for any of the other 9 or 10 congressmen who went. 8 or 9 of which are Democrat. Pelosi is being called to the carpet because she is the Speaker of the House. It should also be noted that no other congressmen who visited Syria has tried to introduce a new diplomatic initiative.
Assad is a terrorist who is playing nice with Pelosi to try and stave off UN sanctions for his orchestrating the murder of Lebanese PM al-Hariri.

Basically, her actions are mutiny. Not much different than treason, eh? The word treason is tossed around so eagerly these days. It has kind of lost its meaning.

the 19 911 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia...........Syria supports Hezbolla not al queada

 

[SueNC]

the 19 911 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia...........Syria supports Hezbolla not al queada

regardless, she went to a terrorist-sponsoring nation, without the president's... HER BOSS'... approval.
the whole purpose of her trip was to undermine the president and this administration.
somebody with that frame of mind... one of being a vindictive, spoiled jagoff, rather than working within the system... doesnt belong in any seat of control.
what she has succeeded in doing is in showing our enemies that there are members of the administration willing to go against the president. it shows weakness and division at a time when the nation needs to be strongly united.

like most liberal scum, her motives are self-serving... much like a criminal's. with that, she should be treated as such.

 

[Hell_Awaits]

regardless, she went to a terrorist-sponsoring nation, without the president's... HER BOSS'... approval.
the whole purpose of her trip was to undermine the president and this administration.
somebody with that frame of mind... one of being a vindictive, spoiled jagoff, rather than working within the system... doesnt belong in any seat of control.
what she has succeeded in doing is in showing our enemies that there are members of the administration willing to go against the president. it shows weakness and division at a time when the nation needs to be strongly united.

like most liberal scum, her motives are self-serving... much like a criminal's. with that, she should be treated as such.

The legislative branch does not need permission from the executive branch to do its job...remember our gov't is not a dictorship.....separation of power..its all in the constitution you should read it sometime...dems and repubs are always taking fact finding trips..I really dont see why everybody has their panties in bind over this...I guess its just feeble minded partisian politics....I see nothing wrong with the legislative branch of our gov't going to Syria....Hell mabe it will help them make more informed decisions.........

 

[SueNC]

The legislative branch does not need permission from the executive branch to do its job...remember our gov't is not a dictorship.....separation of power..its all in the constitution you should read it sometime...dems and repubs are always taking fact finding trips..I really dont see why everybody has their panties in bind over this...I guess its just feeble minded partisian politics....I see nothing wrong with the legislative branch of our gov't going to Syria....Hell mabe it will help them make more informed decisions.........

if it were just a 'fact finding' trip, i could see what you were talking about. as it was, she went there to speak on behalf of our government, without the approval of HER BOSS.
she also chimed in about what Israel is willing to do, to appease the ones who have sworn to destroy them.
she misrepresented Israel and America's positions, when dealing with a terrorist nation..
it really is 'feeble minded partisan politics,' but on the side of the liberal left. she felt she could go over the head of the president and work her own deal with a nation that actively supports terrorism. she did this to gain brownie points with the terrorists.
once more, a liberal leftie proves, beyond all doubt, that they're enemies and traitors to this nation. she also violated the Logan Act. read for yourself:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33265.pdf

 

[fah-q]

The legislative branch does not need permission from the executive branch to do its job...remember our gov't is not a dictorship.....separation of power..its all in the constitution you should read it sometime...dems and repubs are always taking fact finding trips..I really dont see why everybody has their panties in bind over this...I guess its just feeble minded partisian politics....I see nothing wrong with the legislative branch of our gov't going to Syria....Hell mabe it will help them make more informed decisions.........

You are correct, the legislators do not need permission from the POTUS to do their jobs. Pelosi wasn't doing her job. She was doing Condi's job.

I think you are arguing just for the sake of arguing. I know you didn't miss the part where I pointed out that Pelosi violated the Logan act. Pelosi met with a foreign official who is sending weapons and terrorists into Iraq. How can anyone not be upset about her going?

 

[TalesOfTerror]

Ya'll be some wackos.

 

[SueNC]

Ya'll be some wackos.

hi, 22. any wacko in particular or are you just making a blanket observation?

 

[Patrick R.]

Now come on guys, this is no way to treat a women who is the first speaker of the House of Representatives. This is Democracy we are talking about…I can’t believe you Nazis still exist!

 

[Patrick R.]

-Visiting a terrorist nation and meeting with it's leaders is bad enough. Telling those terrorists that she is speaking on behalf of Israel is unacceptable.

Was this state sponsored terrorism?

You are right fah q…speaking on behalf of Israel is a unacceptable. I think she is an anti Semite, Holocaust denier, and I think she has feelings for Adolf Hitler. :Smug:

 

[SueNC]

Was this state sponsored terrorism?

You are right fah q…speaking on behalf of Israel is a unacceptable. I think she is an anti Semite, Holocaust denier, and I think she has feelings for Adolf Hitler. :Smug:

WAY TO FINALLY OPEN UP YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH, PATTY!!! KUDOS TO YOU!!

 

[Patrick R.]

WAY TO FINALLY OPEN UP YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH, PATTY!!! KUDOS TO YOU!!

Yes I know, I thought you would see the joke there.

 

[SueNC]

Yes I know, I thought you would see the joke there.

what joke, Patty?

 

[Patrick R.]

what joke, Patty?

You aren't serious are you?

 

[SueNC]

You aren't serious are you?

um... you were serious, werent you??

 

[Patrick R.]

um... you were serious, werent you??

No, I was poking fun at Nancy Pelosi...I didn't want to slander her because she isn't here to defend herself. But in any case, she probably knows a lot more then I with modern politics...she has a political reason for what she did. But it backfired, but it is nothing she can’t fix.

 

[SueNC]

No, I was poking fun at Nancy Pelosi...I didn't want to slander her because she isn't here to defend herself. But in any case, she probably knows a lot more then I with modern politics...she has a political reason for what she did. But it backfired, but it is nothing she can’t fix.

she definitely had a political reason for what she did. as for her fixing it, the only way this can be resolved is for her to accept her punishment and serve her time for putting her political ambitions above the laws of this nation.