Yeah... Mike, the other guy I knew, seemed to have a pretty unhealthy lifestyle, but he was (similar to Liz) one of the friendliest, nicest guys I knew. He owned a landscaping company and one of my buddies from work was a client of his. One time Mike came in to work looking for Al (the client) and started talking to me about high school in the 70s, *****, women and life in general. He was a great guy, I ended up talking to him almost weekly at work, every time I saw him there he'd spend a good 30-45 minutes talking. then one day Al tells me he passed away by heart attack early in the morning. his fiancee saw him up walking around at 5:30am and found him dead in his bed at 7.