man, i wrote a review for those damned p'ups only a couple weeks after they came out, and it never saw the light of day...then they let the words of morons like this show up on there?
LOL Review of SD Blackouts
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Haha, reminds me of the time I let a buddy borrow my XXX, and he had the settings the same way.... Mind you, being an active eq, having it set that way he pretty much was cutting mids and boosting bass and treble... gain was all the way up too. Sounded like a buzz saw cutting metal behind a wall.
Hmm, that 006 does look cool, it has quite the appropriate name 
, but it's only 22 frets. The 006 and the RGs I'm looking at have the same scale length (25.5") but the deal breaker is that the 006 has 22 frets, meaning the frets are going to be a little farther apart. On the other hand, the RGs have 24 frets so they'll be closer together, which I like. I'm use to my EC-1000 with 24.75" scale length and 24 frets, I'm already a little put-off by the 25.5" length.
Got ahold of somebody that has swapped his pickups out from Ibby stocks to Blackouts, in a basswood RG, and he said it's the only thing that made him decide to keep the guitar. He said it was brittle and weak before, and he had regretted buying the guitar. After putting the Blackouts he said there was suddenly a lot of body and the guitar actually sounded good for the first time. I think I may just go with that white RG and put the Duncans in it.
~006
, but it's only 22 frets. The 006 and the RGs I'm looking at have the same scale length (25.5") but the deal breaker is that the 006 has 22 frets, meaning the frets are going to be a little farther apart. On the other hand, the RGs have 24 frets so they'll be closer together, which I like. I'm use to my EC-1000 with 24.75" scale length and 24 frets, I'm already a little put-off by the 25.5" length. Got ahold of somebody that has swapped his pickups out from Ibby stocks to Blackouts, in a basswood RG, and he said it's the only thing that made him decide to keep the guitar. He said it was brittle and weak before, and he had regretted buying the guitar. After putting the Blackouts he said there was suddenly a lot of body and the guitar actually sounded good for the first time. I think I may just go with that white RG and put the Duncans in it.
~006
iekobrid
Authorized XSr Dealer
Well Marcus, Ibanez doesn't feel the same as you and I do about TOM bridges, so I have to settle for a hardtail... but, it's no biggie, IMO. Still better than a floating trem so I'm willing to make a little bit of a sacrifice. Lately, though, with most of the reviews of the Blackouts saying "they have incredible low end, you'll have to turn the bass on your amp down" has got me thinking maybe I could get away with a basswood bodied RG. I'm not a fan of basswood, for the general lack of body and low-end, but if the Blackouts have an emphasized low-end response then they may be the ticket to getting a full balanced sound from that wood. If it does, in fact, work out like that then my options for an RG have just opened up from an RG321MH to one of these sexy ass RG2EX1s:
The RG321MH, although extremely cheap ($279 new) is apparently one hell of a guitar once you swap the pickups out, according to a shit-ton of Ibanez addicts.
I like it because it's mahogany, simple and has an oil finish, which I've got to admit I've always liked an oiled mahogany body - just sexy. However, that white with black binding is definitely pimp looking. Especially after I would stain the fretboard to look like ebony.. FUCK!
~006
Why not go for a Schecter C-1 ATX? Thick-assed mahogany body and Blackouts, good build quality...
Hmm, that 006 does look cool, it has quite the appropriate name
No, the number of frets does not affect fret spacing. Only changing the scale length changes the distance between frets - you can't just shift your frets up a millimeter or two and make anything into a 38-fret bastard, fret distances for a given scale length are fixed just because basic physics says what will be in tune and what won't.
Jeff
Ok, just so everything is clarified:
If two guitars have 25.5" scale length, one has 22 frets and one has 24 frets, the frets on the 24-fret guitar won't be a little closer together than the 22-fret guitar? I would think they would, since they have to fit two more notes (per string) within the same amount of space. I'm not an expert in this category by any means, so I really would like to know.
~006
If two guitars have 25.5" scale length, one has 22 frets and one has 24 frets, the frets on the 24-fret guitar won't be a little closer together than the 22-fret guitar? I would think they would, since they have to fit two more notes (per string) within the same amount of space. I'm not an expert in this category by any means, so I really would like to know.
~006
Nope - I learned this from Warmoth, though it's common sense also, that the ratio of the spacing between frets is determined by scale length, so to add frets, manufacturers literally just extend the fretboard. Check it out
Also, the C-1 ATX is out of stock until next month (according to every online retailer), and will probably be pushed back since we all know how reliable guitar companies are about meeting their deadlines. Also, it's too much money, I wanted to get a cheaper guitar and customize a few points. Then, I have wanted an RG for a while now. I like the shape and everything, I use to own a JEM back in the studio days, never played it but a few times, it was nice.
~006
~006
Genius Gone Insane
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I had standard Schecter pickups before the blackout. The Schecters actually sounded pretty good for passives.
The Blackout manual clearly says: we strongly recommend against combining your Blackout with a passive pickup as there are too many risks involved. I can vouch for that.
My cheap ass isn't putting two actives in a $170 guitar, no way. I rarely, rarely use the neck. So I just disabled the neck pup and went with 1 pup 1 volume and no tone.
You don't have 'the same amount of space' shared by a 22 fret and a 24 fret. The 22 fret board will be a bit shorter, or to view it another way the 24 fret neck pickup will be set closer to the bridge.
You cannot hold scale length the same and change the fret spacing without killing the intonation. Period.
Jeff
You cannot hold scale length the same and change the fret spacing without killing the intonation. Period.
Jeff
iekobrid
Authorized XSr Dealer
Fanned fretboard weirdness aside, every fret on a correctly built modern "even-tempered" electric guitar should be approximately 94.39% further from the nut than the fret that came before it, and the distances from the nut, 12th fret and 24th fret to the bridge should always be 100%, 50%, and 25% of the total scale length respectively.
Melodeath
Moonbow
I'm gasing for the Schecter C-1 Blackjack ATX FR so hard. I've had a C-1 Blackjack for years and it's amazing.
The white is so sexy too. Even sexier than the black.
However, a good friend of mine told me the S series Ibanez guitars are the easiest guitar to play he's ever tried. Unfortunately, my guitar center "does not stock expensive guitars"
so i can't test out any of these guitars unless I agree to buy them when they order them.
Plus, I'm still deciding whether I want a 7-string or not
I don't mean to derail the thread (actually, this thread didn't have much purpose anyway other than to point out an idiot
), but any advice on whether switching to a 7-string is a hard/easy good/bad?
The white is so sexy too. Even sexier than the black.
However, a good friend of mine told me the S series Ibanez guitars are the easiest guitar to play he's ever tried. Unfortunately, my guitar center "does not stock expensive guitars"
so i can't test out any of these guitars unless I agree to buy them when they order them.Plus, I'm still deciding whether I want a 7-string or not
I don't mean to derail the thread (actually, this thread didn't have much purpose anyway other than to point out an idiot
), but any advice on whether switching to a 7-string is a hard/easy good/bad?
Genius Gone Insane
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I'm just as bad at 7 string as at 6. The switch does take a little getting used to but it's easier than I expected. The hardest adjustment is covering the strings to prevent string noise.
The thing that I hate about 7-strings is the fact that when I start a run/riff/anything on the low string that involves the higher ones, I always shift up a fret on the 5th string, even though it's the G and not the B (as it would be on a 6-string). Needless to say, this sounds absolutely horrid, and while I could get used to it, I suppose, I'm just so used to 6-string patterns/shapes and I love having the same string on the top as the bottom, I see absolutely no reason to go to a 7 (if I wanted to tune really low, I'd just get a baritone 6).
my experience with ordering an out of stock schecter was horrible. guitar arrived over a year after i ordered!!!! apparently due to a strike in vancouver or something.
i always consider a 7 string as a six string with an extra low string, rather than a six string with a extra high string. this helps with the problem that metaltastic described. I actually found the seven string got me started on writing fresh material, rather than playing covers or music that sounded exactly like other bands.
found it made me more creative.
i always consider a 7 string as a six string with an extra low string, rather than a six string with a extra high string. this helps with the problem that metaltastic described. I actually found the seven string got me started on writing fresh material, rather than playing covers or music that sounded exactly like other bands.
found it made me more creative.
Loren Littlejohn
Lover of all boobage.
Yeah, but the presence knob at max is the ULTIMATE suck tool
Highs and presence
uke:.The mids being on 0 isn't the end of the world (although live I prefer them up around 3.5).
i did the same thing with my jackson PS-4...i didn't have the bones for 2(actually it has 3) pickups, so i just tossed a blackout in the neck, connected it to the volume pot, and said fuck it...it only gets used for lead work anyways, so i'm pretty happy with it
Josh Burgess
Member
to sum up thread: hardtails FTL. 7 strings FTW. blackouts undecided.
wish there was TW version of the blackouts like the EMG 707TW for single coil sounds...
wish there was TW version of the blackouts like the EMG 707TW for single coil sounds...
Might want to change that to 'Ibanez cheapo shitbridges FTL', but that does sound about right.
Jeff
Jeff
