Macintosh can suck my nutz

[paladin shredder]

 

[Brandon E.]

somebody lock this motherfucker already!

 

[amarshism]

Oh please do.

 

[TheWinterSnow]

no WinterSnow, my G5 is only 4 years old... and cost me quite a bit, since i got it with just about every upgrade imaginable and 8GB ram... this is what studios do... you get a good machine, that's stable, and you use it as long as possible. this is doubly true for studios than any other business, since "newer" often equals more conflicts and stability problems.... you guys are tying to apply normal paradigm to the studio world.. and it doesn't fit. you gt with stability, and compatibility.... not the latest greatest. again, it comes back to the very sound business concept of cost/benefit ratio... when you do that, it's quite normal to NOT blindly upgrade to the latest thing constantly.

incompatibilities come from software and firmware. Where in terms I meant smoother, more efficient is in the hardware prospective. The physical components on a circuit board will wear out over time, drift in value and not operate as intended, if their is a flaw in the component from the beginning, it will cause that component to completely fail. What I meant on new was newer hardware. This mean time failure for most electronics is about 8 years, and you can expect that the chances of failure will double when the device has gone halfway through its life.

What I meant by new was newly manufactured, not latest generation technology. Say you build a computer and you buy a motherboard and you leave that PC on all the time, then two years later you build another computer with the same motherboard (its out of date but still good and now cheaper). That newer motherboard will be more reliable if it was manufactured with the same severity of flaws the first one had.

I highly agree with not going with the latest generation in software technology, for numerous reasons, compatibility, stability and cost. If you wait for the new product to be tested and fixed and wait until it is cheaper, drivers and firmware are available for it, then that it when it is wise to upgrade. I find that in mu systems I keep the newest hardware and use the software that is the most stable, the tried and true. I am still finding that for music, and hardware to software stability, and drivers work better on XP over windows 7, which is why I remain reluctant to switch over to 7 as my music hub.

With that in mind IMO, any studio would be smart to invest in a second G5, or get their hands on the first generation Mac Pro's, though I am not sure how the software compatibility on the MP's are for music recording, but the specs around HD3 made it seem like leopard was the benchmark for their latest cards.

So all I was trying to say was, newer manufactured hardware (not newest generation technology) has a lesser chance to fail than more used hardware.

 

[MEGA DAVE]

please do lock this thread....

anywho, in my closing statement I will attest that this studio has put $250k into its building and if you check the site you would see that, and whats on the site is even out of date, and yes I am factoring renovations into this pricing, but I just wanna point out that I would assume that the reason they cannot afford an upgrade is because THIS ECONOMY SUCKS and I know we're all feeling it as music producers. There have been threads about this issue as many studios are being forced to close or cut rates just to stay afloat so in knowing this you would understand why someone couldn't justify throwing $10k+ out of their ass... Come on people. This forum is meant for us to voice opinions, help one another, and give advice, but low and behold, someone has an opposing opinion to anyone and it's a whirlwind of shit. I thought we were all adults here? guess not...

 

[MEGA DAVE]

my comment had nothing to do with the argument between you two at all I'm not pointing any fingers I'm just stating that we're all adults here and all human so lets all agree to disagree. We all have opinions and we all make mistakes, sure I shouldn't have worded my opening statement the way I did but I did and mistake or not that's no reason for people to fly off the handle, am I wrong?

 

[guitarguru777]

Plain and simple its not the "Macs" fault its fucking 5 years old, who the hell trusts a 5 year old piece of hardware, and this is coming from a guy whos not a fan of mac's. Any studio that did $250k in upgrades and didnt buy a new mack for $2k is just asking for trouble. Honestly I would tell them to piss off, get my money back and find a better studio to record it.