Males and Females

Einherjar86 said:
I do not understand, based on what you posted, how you can say that women writers are at greater risk of being narcissists (if that's what you're saying). I would say that it's actually not even close to 100%. As far as narcissism in writing goes, men have the monopoly on that, historically speaking. And no, that's not just because there were once more men writing than women; narcissism is far more rampant in male literature. This doesn't mean there aren't female narcissists, but the men outweigh them when it comes to writing. David Foster Wallace even had a term for it: Great White Male narcissism.
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Not all women writers. Women who write about ideas and things are exempted. Male narcissism in writing is absolutely more rampant in history because women weren't able to be public writers. So in reference to this particular post I'm in overall agreement with you (minus the Wallace thing). We are talking about something that has developed in the public sphere mostly in the last couple of decades. Call them the "Sex and the City Squad" if you wanted some sort of cultural touchstone as a reference.
 
Dak said:
Not all women writers. Women who write about ideas and things are exempted.
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:err: Setting aside the suspicious quality of this distinction, you're saying that men who write about themselves are also exempt? They somehow overcome the narcissism of... what, autobiographical writing?

Dak said:
Male narcissism in writing is absolutely more rampant in history because women weren't able to be public writers.
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I precisely said this wasn't the case in my last post. Even today, autobiographical writing, memoirs, and autobiographical fiction are as prevalent, if not more so, among male writers. Furthermore, women have been public writers since at least the eighteenth century.

Dak said:
Call them the "Sex and the City Squad" if you wanted some sort of cultural touchstone as a reference.
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This returns me to what I called the "suspicious quality" of your distinction. Neither Carrie Bradshaw (nor the author of Sex and the City, for that matter) were writing solely about themselves. And much to the same point, writers who write about "ideas and things" are always also writing about themselves.
 
Einherjar86 said:
:err: Setting aside the suspicious quality of this distinction, you're saying that men who write about themselves are also exempt? They somehow overcome the narcissism of... what, autobiographical writing?

I precisely said this wasn't the case in my last post. Even today, autobiographical writing, memoirs, and autobiographical fiction are as prevalent, if not more so, among male writers. Furthermore, women have been public writers since at least the eighteenth century.
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Ok, some clarifications here. I already said males are not exempt here, merely do so less via the same venues. I am not talking about books in the last 20 years. I am talking about pieces in magazines, blogs, opinion pieces in newspapers/newspaper websites. Obviously these options weren't broadly available even to men (or women) prior to the 18th century.

Full length works such as autobiographies et al are likely more prevalent among men. While consisting significantly of subjective interpretations of proceedings, people who engage in doings which render an autobiography or memoir interesting engage in doings which are independently, intersubjectively evaluable, which act as a check on the significance. Not that this has any interrelation on the potential narcissistic factor, but we can have some counterbalancing information on the reality of what is reported.


Einherjar86 said:
This returns me to what I called the "suspicious quality" of your distinction. Neither Carrie Bradshaw (nor the author of Sex and the City, for that matter) were writing solely about themselves. And much to the same point, writers who write about "ideas and things" are always also writing about themselves.
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Sure on both counts. The author of Sex and the City was writing about broadbased turn of the millennium bourgeoisie female narcissistic proclivities, which is why it was so popular. On the second point, Nietzsche already addressed this at least in reference to ideas in 19th century and earlier philosophers. But there is a difference in going "ahhaha my proverbial toilet isn't truly overflowing" and writing an article about the mechanical nature of a widget which is empirically replicable.
 
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this thread used to be people talking about their sex lives and King Richard posting pix of sexy women
what happened to that??
 
I think so, as long as a little nervous anticipation before the date doesn't translate into acting awkward during the date. fwiw I still get a little nervous in the hours leading up to the first few dates, depending on how long it takes either to hook up or how long it takes before I stop caring about hooking up.
 
Blurry_Dreams said:
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CiG said:
Play these back-to-back for best results:





It'll be like shooting clunge in a barrel.
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EMF is a kickass album, GG's best IMO.

Edit: I just remembered a story about Clit Licker. I was washing my hands in the bathroom at school, casually singing Clit Licker to myself I turned around and one of the maintence workers was behind me staring. Everytime I see him we exchange a funny glance.
 
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