Males and Females

"I don't want to know this intellectually, I want to know it in spirit and in truth."

I think to some degree I can understand how someone could reach this conclusion, if only for the way I tend to approach things. When there is something I want to know about I don't try to just engage myself mentally with it. I can't ever truly find myself caring about it. If I can somehow involve myself emotionally then I can instantly create a connection.

I do disagree with the assumption that nothing spiritual is truthful, spiritual doesn't always have to be supernatural or reliant on a 'god.'

Found this while searching about godless spirituality

The believer claims:

But without “God”… there is no spirituality.

Spirituality brings to the human mind a higher sense (feeling) of purpose and meaning. And only through spirituality can you reach this higher human “value”. This is deceptive.

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All that exists – including human beings - are formed by (and within) nature. Therefore all senses, all feelings, are of a natural construct. And the feeling of being “more”, of touching “higher” is – by natural formation – included and available to all… (without the belief in a “God”).

What is the feeling of spirituality? It is as if, beyond the five (substance) senses of the body, the mind expands itself into an (essence) sense, a sixth sense, as it often referred. This sense expand our mind’s consciousness into the unseen. It becomes a super or hyper sense. It allows our thoughts not only to sense the Eternal and the Infinite but to also affect the not yet created.

It gives us that sensation of being “more”.
Of creating ourselves beyond our present condition. And of affecting our tomorrow.

The sixth sense presents itself as a “frame of mind”, a “state of consciousness”. The consciousness that all in the universe touches, is part, has contact, with all… that all is One. All forms are part of that – all/ One – consciousness. And by thought, we are in contact with all forms.

(The universe is not made of “inert” matter.)

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The sixth sense - is accessible at all time… to all.

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Can you be “spiritual” without a “God”?

Naturally,
Yes.
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I agree with that. That's basically what drew me to (traditional) Buddhism. Other secular humanist philosophes I found to be devoid of finding a higher meaning and purpose in life, as if there is some assumption that you can't have that without a god. I'd not only argue that you can; I'd argue that the world is more beautiful when it is a mystery not attributed to an assumption like all events being the result of a struggle between God/Yahweh/Allah and the Devil/Satan/Iblis. The most spiritual moment in my life was when I was high and truly thought about the grand scope of time and the universe. It is far more than my mind (unless some serious genetic alterations have been made) can comprehend, understand, and gauge. It is a mystery filled with possibilities that are hard to scope for myself as anything but infinite.
 
Spirit is a word I don't use, because I think of it in the sense of the German word "Geist" which means both spirit and mind, just as ψυχη (psyche) in Greek means both spirit and mind. It was the Krauts, after all, who coined the term psychology.
 
The phrase "I know in my heart" is so irritating. It's like saying "I believe it even though logic and facts say it's wrong."
 
Some days, I'm having trouble having conversations with women without it being a means to an end(ie. fucking them). Like today, I was out talking to a couple random girls and my thought process was"Ok, just keep talking about this subject for so long, you get her phone number, go for an instadate, or set up a date later). This puts pressure on me and the interaction isn't as fun, but it co-opts my goal of fucking random women. Oh the paradox. I need to keep in mind that the conversations need to be natural and fun without the added pressure of fucking them later. I* get so mad and upset at myself about this. I want to be something I haven't become yet and it hurts. And no, focusing on other aspects of my life doesn't help nor make me feel better about myself. I took a break from approaching and I think it hurt me.

No, I am not a pick-up artist, though I do a lot of things like they do. I just want a plentiful sex life with multiple women.

PS: Hollering at a girl while she is with her friend isn't as easy during the daytime due to womens' thought processes being all over the place(No offense girls).
 
Maybe things are different in Tennessee, but where I live, it would be fucking weird if a guy did anything but small talk with a girl in a public place (minus clubs, bars, and schools), especially if they were with a friend.
 
Vimana said:
Maybe things are different in Tennessee, but where I live, it would be fucking weird if a guy did anything but small talk with a girl in a public place (minus clubs, bars, and schools), especially if they were with a friend.
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Yeah, nothing wrong with small talk, but with that, you have to hook them somehow, otherwise they walk away. Yes, that happened to me today. I just started talking about what my Mom liked in lotions with the girl, but her friend interrupted, and it's hard to take attention away from two people that have shared so much time together. I commented on stuff, and asked about other things, but they were so wrapped up in themselves and what they were doing, they went about their way. That's why I have trouble with women in bars and nightclubs, it's hard to hook two women's attention for so long. I'm much better at approaching women by themselves, that's my specialty. :) Yes, I "failed", and was upset and a little pissed, but I got over it. :)

Maybe it's because I have a mustache now? haha
 
Got a couple of girls' numbers while I was working, then my mates came into my bar who were going to the same event as they were. So we decided to go and I managed to get a couple of numbers and then scooted off to the event after work. Danced and bought the girls a couple of drinks. All was going well, one particular girl took a liking to me and gave me a hug when it was time to leave.

Then she texted me later that she had a boyfriend and she was sorry if she gave the wrong impression. Damn... and she was hawt.
 
~Derek~ said:
Yeah, nothing wrong with small talk, but with that, you have to hook them somehow, otherwise they walk away. Yes, that happened to me today. I just started talking about what my Mom liked in lotions with the girl, but her friend interrupted, and it's hard to take attention away from two people that have shared so much time together. I commented on stuff, and asked about other things, but they were so wrapped up in themselves and what they were doing, they went about their way. That's why I have trouble with women in bars and nightclubs, it's hard to hook two women's attention for so long. I'm much better at approaching women by themselves, that's my specialty. :) Yes, I "failed", and was upset and a little pissed, but I got over it. :)

Maybe it's because I have a mustache now? haha
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:lol: I don't think it was the mustache :P. I think that if you had concentrated on conversation with the other girl and included the previous girl it would've been okay.

All a matter of pulling the new girl into a new conversation and taking hold of the situation. The key is to choose your target, and focus on that in a way that is under the table. By capturing the new girl's attention, it shows your alpha male dominance (not I'm a meat headed cunt that will bash anything, but just using your intelligence as a tool).

Just simple conversation of getting to know her shows that you're actually interested in their friendship and their relationship together. Also, it opens up opportunities of understanding how both of their personalities work as friends. It's more of a social experiment but I've always found that it works and it impresses your "target" when you actually try to get to know their friends and that you're not afraid to adapting to different situations.

That's how I see it anyway. :)
 
So, remember how I posted about my recent episode with Hot Nurse? Remember how you all said to forget about her?

Well, against my better judgment, I'm pursuing her. My reasoning is that I never gave her a fair shot and I should at least do that for her (because I'm an idiot/nice guy/whatever).

So, I sent her a text when I was at work last week I think? I asked her when it would be a good time to call her. So, I got a text back about 12 hours later saying to try Friday because she was working the nights in between then. So, Friday night comes up and I go to call and...I get her voicemail. So, I leave a voicemail and I get a text 40 minutes later from her basically saying that she was at her sister's and didn't get good reception, etc etc and to call her tomorrow.

So, tomorrow (Saturday) rolls around and I call her mid afternoon and she answers and asks if she can call me back because she's in the middle of something, so I say sure. 30 mins go by and I get a call back and I basically ask her if she'd be interested in going on a second date and she obliged but she wasn't sure about her schedule because she picked up a shift yadda yadda. So I just told her to get back to me when she had that in order.

Well, we come to Tuesday and I send her a text and say 'So, what's up with your schedule?' and I get a text later that night and she apologized because she was having phone problems and other such things. She said that she was free Monday and Tuesday night so I offered dinner on Tuesday and she said sure and to call her this weekend to iron out the details (Sunday evening).

and here we are. So now I have two days to stew over this, but the length between her texts is getting shorter now, so maybe she's becoming less apprehensive about this second date thing..
 
She doesn't sound interested to me. Our society expects women to be less forthright, and it's a shame. It sounds like she's agreeing to dinner because she doesn't know how to say no. I wouldn't go for it.
 
Well, I'll find out either Sunday or Tuesday if she is, especially if I get stood up. I'm just short of flat out asking her if she's still interested. My buddy says she is, but my gut tells me otherwise.
 
I guess so, since you already have it set up. A one-on-one date is a good way to find out if she's interested.
 
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