Males and Females

Dodens Grav said:
The term feminism is used because it's the female gender attempting to raise itself to the point of equality. Just like every other marginalized and disenfranchised group attempting to raise itself up. Feminism, at least true feminism faithful to its original tenets, does not desire to achieve gender superiority, but simply equality, so yes, feminism does = espousing equality.
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No. Feminism focuses specifically on "women's" issues, and I'm excluding any sort of militant/fringe/extreme character previously mentioned. You can't focus on one subgroup of women's interpretations of social issues within larger subgroups, and claim you are only concerned about an overarching "equality". When focused on a single issue, like women's suffrage (long taken care of), the claim could possibly be made. Not now.

Anyway, only individualism recognizes each individual irrespective of gender, or any other special interest label, which inevitably promotes the issues of the respective subgroup against or at the expense of others.
 
Overwatch said:
No. Feminism focuses specifically on "women's" issues
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I stopped reading after this because it's so fundamentally wrong that you can't possibly have a working understanding of the subject worth reading. No offense. :cool: Part of the feminist ideal is to liberate the male as well.
 
But achieving equal footing in a society that has been male dominated for about 4000 years (i.e. western civilization) is a woman's issue. Of course many barriers have been broken, but equality isn't quite there yet. Of course, this could be construed as a utopian goal, which by its virtue of being utopian would be unachievable, but that's neither here nor there.
 
Dodens Grav said:
I stopped reading after this because it's so fundamentally wrong that you can't possibly have a working understanding of the subject worth reading. No offense. :cool: Part of the feminist ideal is to liberate the male as well.
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My wife has a very vocal feminist friend. One of the non-"radical" sort. I've never once seen her forward or discuss anything with her that is even remotely concerned with any "male" issue. I've scanned the publications/websites she posts from etc. and have yet to see anything that was a "male" issue that wasn't equivalent to "When did you stop beating your wife?"

Focusing on some subgroup (especially one as large and diverse as either gender) as if they were a homogeneous block is frankly fucking stupid, and what feminism does. In the US suffrage situation, the law created that block on a single issue, just like it had made distinctions for unlanded men and slaves. Women's suffrage =/= feminism, anymore than a lack of voting rights for the unlanded could fall under some sort of "Greater Issue" for an arbitrary subgroup.

I couldn't possibly be offended by someone regarding any subject where the opposing dialogue consists of canned responses and FAQ-ish talking points.

@KR: Until we can all agree on a definition of equality, to talk of inequality is relatively pointless.
 
I'm not sure about everyone, but I'm not talking about some sort of Marxist equality. Equal opportunity in education and all appropriately gender neutral occupations, equal standards of morality, civility, and freedom of expression is what I'm talking about. Most can agree on that, I assume.
 
Me too, and I like equal rights. And well groomed vaginas, blow jobs from girls, the creamy stuff that comes out of a woman's vajayjay when she's really horny, and women's asses, and sex with women in all of their orifices. But I also think that those same women should be treated with dignity. :Spin:
 
I've never seen rape porn. I've seen bondage (which probably counts), but I haven't ever seen a porn video where somebody just takes the chick and fucks her while she screams (without bdsm stuff), like an old fashioned rape.

Anyways, I always treat women with respect. The only thing unrespectful that I may do is take a peak, but that's normal. Porn hasn't change by views on women, and that's BS for the most part. Most people aren't that stupid.
 
It's 3 weeks since I met my German girl and it feels like about 2 months. We've spent a total of about 4 days apart since we met. I've had more sex in three weeks than I have in years. We spent my birthday, xmas and new year's together. After partying for new year's, we went back to my place and had insane crazy OH MY GOD HOLY FUCKING SHIT sex for about 6 hours on and off. We spend the rest of our time together drinking, watching fucked up movies, eating good food and going out to pubs to drink/see bands.

The summer of Toenail is officially here. :cool:
 
Is it bad that I don't even care what I message females on online dating sites? I see girls on there and I see that we have similar things in common, but I just don't give a fuck about sending them any "interesting" messages asking them questions on their profile and how we have things in common? I'm basically at the level where I just want to say "Yo, you seem cool. We should get dinner and discuss fucking shit." or even just saying "alhdfahdkjfhajdfhadfa fuck hdjahdfjahsdfjashdfadfa I don't give a afakldfadfhas."

Could be the alcohol talking.
 
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