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hexwind
Creepiness Och Terrorism
man....
You could ask for help, we would definitely help ya to get over yourself, believe me. I can understand how shitty you feel for being ignored. I doubt you have friends in real life (in case you behave the same way in real life, if so, I can actually understand why the world is fucked up, it's becoz of such people).
I'm sorry for you.
HemeHaci
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@Arasmas: Annihilat0r is way more clever than you, stop arguing for your own sake..
Good point, I have always thought about it too. I wondered how trolls (not directing this to Arasmas) on the internet are in real life, cowards? always ignored losers? bullies (I really doubt that)? How can they make friends at all, else if they have a normal life why they turn into something terrible? Subconscious fears that they've kept inside in real life may be the reason, well in fact there may be tons of reasons anyways.. I just dont understand trolls..
Good point, I have always thought about it too. I wondered how trolls (not directing this to Arasmas) on the internet are in real life, cowards? always ignored losers? bullies (I really doubt that)? How can they make friends at all, else if they have a normal life why they turn into something terrible? Subconscious fears that they've kept inside in real life may be the reason, well in fact there may be tons of reasons anyways.. I just dont understand trolls..
hexwind
Creepiness Och Terrorism
Mr Samsara
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Stop bashing before I delete this thread. The concept is not bad at all, but now you're all being petty and childish. Argue your points, and if you think you have gone as far as you can in any particular thread... stop posting in it. Summary: Stay on topic or STFU.
That was a very arrogant, self-richeous and insulting post Arasmus.
First of all, any person who will listen to only genre and intentionally dismisses others is mistaken. Be it metal, or rap or country or classical, they are inevitably missing out and are limiting their mind. That is a mistake.
From this point on, I am not talking about close minded people.
Do you agree music is an art form?
If so, then we can continue this conversation. If not, you're probably alone here and should seek debate on that question instead.
So, music being art, the meaning and feelings evoked by the piece is contingent only on the observer. Agreed?
This statement should apply to any art form. Take for instance painting. Would you use your same elitist argument at a gallery? Would call other enthusiasts "stunted" for liking a certain style or artist more than another? Would you say to someone, that painting sucks and you're a fucking idiot, teenage-minded fool for liking it? I don't think you would. Some people pay money for splashed paint on a canvas. Or some fucking red dots or something. Others like Impressionism or Realism. One is not objectively better. Nevertheless people can more easily walk through a gallery and appreciate many different kinds of painting, while still having favorites. It seems that people have a hard time doing that with music.
I would say that at least 50% of my favorite bands would be considered metal. I think I have a pretty good knowledge of music in theory and practice. There are a lot of classical, jazz, blues, folk, bluegrass songs that I LOVE! Even a few hip hop and electronic songs that I can dig. BUT, I happen to appreciate metal the most. It has a certain feeling and power to it that other styles simply do not. It is true, many metal lyrics are ridiculous, (this is by no means exclusive to metal either, eg. Phish, Elvis, almost all country). I listen to those songs more like they're intrumentals, where the vocals are another instrument. I don't throw in Dying Fetus for poetic inpiration. But that doesn't mean a band like that is worthless. I might not listen to them very often, but they're not automatically worthless. I think Bob Dylan has some excellent lyrics, but the music is complete SHIT in my opinion. I don't call Dylan fans stunted idots though.
And there are some metal bands that have interesting/stimulating and inspiring lyrics. And you cannot reasonably say that metal bands are without talent. Some metal is brilliant. Either from a technical standpoint or emotional or both.
Take bands like:
Opeth
Anathema
Earth
Decrepit Birth
Death
Witchcraft
Enslaved
Sunn O)))
I believe any person who listens from an objective standpoint will see value in music like this.
Are metal heads dumb for loving metal? FUCK NO! Is it dumb to say metal (or any other genre) is the ONLY good music? FUCK YES.
Metal is great and I'm so glad for the people in the scene, the bands, and the music that comes out of it. If you think it's childish Arasmus, I think it would do you good to get your head out of your ass and re-evaluate your opinion.
First of all, any person who will listen to only genre and intentionally dismisses others is mistaken. Be it metal, or rap or country or classical, they are inevitably missing out and are limiting their mind. That is a mistake.
From this point on, I am not talking about close minded people.
Do you agree music is an art form?
If so, then we can continue this conversation. If not, you're probably alone here and should seek debate on that question instead.
So, music being art, the meaning and feelings evoked by the piece is contingent only on the observer. Agreed?
This statement should apply to any art form. Take for instance painting. Would you use your same elitist argument at a gallery? Would call other enthusiasts "stunted" for liking a certain style or artist more than another? Would you say to someone, that painting sucks and you're a fucking idiot, teenage-minded fool for liking it? I don't think you would. Some people pay money for splashed paint on a canvas. Or some fucking red dots or something. Others like Impressionism or Realism. One is not objectively better. Nevertheless people can more easily walk through a gallery and appreciate many different kinds of painting, while still having favorites. It seems that people have a hard time doing that with music.
I would say that at least 50% of my favorite bands would be considered metal. I think I have a pretty good knowledge of music in theory and practice. There are a lot of classical, jazz, blues, folk, bluegrass songs that I LOVE! Even a few hip hop and electronic songs that I can dig. BUT, I happen to appreciate metal the most. It has a certain feeling and power to it that other styles simply do not. It is true, many metal lyrics are ridiculous, (this is by no means exclusive to metal either, eg. Phish, Elvis, almost all country). I listen to those songs more like they're intrumentals, where the vocals are another instrument. I don't throw in Dying Fetus for poetic inpiration. But that doesn't mean a band like that is worthless. I might not listen to them very often, but they're not automatically worthless. I think Bob Dylan has some excellent lyrics, but the music is complete SHIT in my opinion. I don't call Dylan fans stunted idots though.
And there are some metal bands that have interesting/stimulating and inspiring lyrics. And you cannot reasonably say that metal bands are without talent. Some metal is brilliant. Either from a technical standpoint or emotional or both.
Take bands like:
Opeth
Anathema
Earth
Decrepit Birth
Death
Witchcraft
Enslaved
Sunn O)))
I believe any person who listens from an objective standpoint will see value in music like this.
Are metal heads dumb for loving metal? FUCK NO! Is it dumb to say metal (or any other genre) is the ONLY good music? FUCK YES.
Metal is great and I'm so glad for the people in the scene, the bands, and the music that comes out of it. If you think it's childish Arasmus, I think it would do you good to get your head out of your ass and re-evaluate your opinion.
hexwind
Creepiness Och Terrorism
Well, I did my best trying to read the entire thread, obviating the off-topic discusions about satan (lol) and trying to get Arasmas point... It was enough for me to read 4 or 5 pages to find out what was it all about. Here's my theory.
Once a friend told me that the inuits were capable of distinguishing among 5 tones of white in the snow, where a normal person could see just one plain tone of white. That's because his "adaptation" to the environment.
If you just can not adapt to a genre of music is because maybe you don't have the skills, or else, plainly, you do not want to do the effort cause it is not worth it.
So don't blame the genre just because you realised you wasted many years of your life listening to something you didn't understand or couldn't interprete properly..(that makes you a moron)
I confess I couldn't criticise metal as accurately as other genres. It's too big for me and i only like a bunch of metal bands.
It doesn't mean I dont respect it.
P:S : but, you must confess that there are lots of crappy-shitty metal bands, though.
Once a friend told me that the inuits were capable of distinguishing among 5 tones of white in the snow, where a normal person could see just one plain tone of white. That's because his "adaptation" to the environment.
If you just can not adapt to a genre of music is because maybe you don't have the skills, or else, plainly, you do not want to do the effort cause it is not worth it.
So don't blame the genre just because you realised you wasted many years of your life listening to something you didn't understand or couldn't interprete properly..(that makes you a moron)
I confess I couldn't criticise metal as accurately as other genres. It's too big for me and i only like a bunch of metal bands.
It doesn't mean I dont respect it.
P:S : but, you must confess that there are lots of crappy-shitty metal bands, though.
there are literally trillions of things about your post that I could enumerate and tear apart but I'd rather focus on how dumb you must be to think that "richeous" is a word
well, i guess i should tell you that something "a friend once told you" is wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_words_for_snow
Nasty-Fire
Discursion
Nasty-Fire
Discursion
So, are we to understand that you believe a small aesthetic quibble about his metaphor enough to completely refute his point?
PeeWee1473
I just pretend to know
Well, he DID ignore Caesar's post completely. As someone stated before, he's not really all about the discussion. I suggest everyone moves on.
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