Metalcore

[Necro Joe]

Honestly listening to that Maroon song I'm pretty much hearing KSE with some extra metal mixed in, which isn't a bad thing (Alive or Just Breathing is a pretty cool album) but like a lot of this modern metalcore stuff it kind of lacks its own identity. I far prefer the videos Satanastoenail posted (with Converge and Botch being easily the best out of those).

Also, Nation of Ulysses kick ass.

 

[Satanstoenail]

And your point would be what exactly? They're a METAL band.

lol.

Also, neither James Hetfield or Dave Mustaine play guitar left-handed. Just thought I should point that out.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Honestly listening to that Maroon song I'm pretty much hearing KSE with some extra metal mixed in

Are you sure your ears work?

 

[popcorn]

black dahlia murder are good! some others if they havent been mentioned are "bring me the horizon" and "the devil wears prada"

 

[Gold]

tdwp yes

i dont consider bmth a serious band

 

[Manic Ferocity]

I'm currently addicted to Converge - Jane Doe. Excellent album!

 

[seedofvengeance]

black dahlia murder are good! some others if they havent been mentioned are "bring me the horizon" and "the devil wears prada"

TDWP is screamo. They're really gay... but I can get into some of their heavier stuff, like Dogs Can Grow Beards All Over.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

The Devil Wears Prada isn't screamo. What are you talking about?

 

[seedofvengeance]

Maybe it's their incredibly gay appearance that makes them Screamo in my mind... plus their singing, that's usually a screamo characteristic.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Well, considering appearance is not a musical trait, wouldn't it be safe to assume that APPEARANCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT GENRE A BAND FALLS UNDER.

 

[seedofvengeance]

Jesus... calm down. You're a little too passionate here.
What is the defining line between Screamo and Metalcore?

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

so true.

I friggin' posted the definition of screamo iirc on the last page, check it.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Jesus... calm down. You're a little too passionate here.
What is the defining line between Screamo and Metalcore?

You're simply deaf if you can't hear the difference. The only thing that even sounds remotely like screamo in metalcore is, occasionally, the vocals.

 

[Necro Joe]

Are you sure your ears work?

Well I went and listened to it again to make sure and seriously, you can't hear it? Like, at all? The vocalist could (apart from the lack of clean singing) be the same guy off Alive or Just Breathing, and yeah the riffs are faster and a bit more death metally but I really hear the same kinds of melodies and even chord progressions.

The problem I have with these kinds of bands is that you think you can tell straight away where their riffs come from. The bits of that Maroon song that don't evoke KSE either sound like they were pulled straight from a Meshuggah record or Slaughter of the Soul (just sped up a bit). I mean yeah sure not everything has to be revolutionary but damn it why not listen to the bands who were at least creative enough to wrap their plagiarism in original wrapping. This is the same problem I have with Between the Buuried and Me, I have been convinced to buy their last two album and I will never forgive the bastards who recommended them to me (since I couldn't even take their last one back).

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Well...it's called influence. Look how many trad doom bands effectively rip off Sabbath, look how many death bands steal riffs from other earlier death bands or have similar songs or structures. It's not strange that bands play similar or even the same riffs. That's called tribute. TBH I do hear the similarities of course, I'm not deaf at all, but the artistic aim and goal is completely different and the context isn't even close to the same so I don't mind as much.

 

[Gold]

screamo or not, theyre epic as fuck..imo of course.

 

[v2kv]

On another topic, anyone here like 'Sikth'? Fucking incredible band. Along the lines of Lye By Mistake, really fusion/jazzy metalcore with eclectic influences and vocals, and outlandishly technical playing.

Yeah of course, Sikth are amazing...Death of A Dead Day and The Trees Are Dead & Dried Out, Wait For Something Wild

I saw Lye By Mistake open for BTBAM (incredible show) at the Reverb last Thursday, and yeah they're all insane musicians. The guitarist's playing style is SO Holdsworth, so I loved it. Met the singer after their set too, really nice guy.

I'm currently addicted to Converge - Jane Doe. Excellent album!

Yes, Converge. That's a classic. You've gotta love No Heroes as well.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

I actually haven't heard that one. How does it compare to Jane Doe?

 

[Satanstoenail]

I actually haven't heard that one. How does it compare to Jane Doe?

As good or better IMO. I posted the clip for No Heroes a couple of pages ago.

 

[v2kv]

As good or better IMO. I posted the clip for No Heroes a couple of pages ago.

Depends how you think of it I guess...Jane Doe has some of their most memorable stuff for sure.