Metalcore

Acey: REALLY GOOD metalcore is not like screamo whatsoever. It gets a bad rap due to a lot of gay shit like Killswitch Engage but has some awesome underground gems. I like Parkway Drive though...
 
Faust Again is a perfect example of metalcore that doesn't really have any "scene" qualities. Not that I really care as long as the music's good but, you know. :p

Are Parkway Drive all that mainstream? I don't remember ever hearing about them before getting into metalcore.
 
Acey: REALLY GOOD metalcore is not like screamo whatsoever. It gets a bad rap due to a lot of gay shit like Killswitch Engage but has some awesome underground gems. I like Parkway Drive though...

Yeah, well i've been a lifelong metalhead and i've heard probably 5 good metalcore bands in my life. I don't personally like Parkway,being an aussie i've seen them at festivals and stuff, and i think they suck total arse, but if you mean metalcore in the traditional sense, i think the term "Crossover Thrash" is more appropriate. Bands like S.O.D, Nuclear Assault,D.R.I, The Accused, and bands like that are all pretty awesome but not this Caliban, As I Lay Dying, It Dies Today (does it? how do you know?) and KSE faggotry.
 
Well personally I am sick of trying to show people good metalcore. You can keep being stupid and insistently hateful towards it or recognize that there are awesome bands you dislike playing GOOD metalcore worldwide.
 
Metalcore is always kind of on-the-fence in regards to how "metal" it is (though really, who gives a shit, it's all "music"!)...it should be judge on a case by case basis. Objectively, Heaven Shall Burn is a fuckload more metal than KSE.
 
Metalcore is always kind of on-the-fence in regards to how "metal" it is (though really, who gives a shit, it's all "music"!)...it should be judge on a case by case basis. Objectively, Heaven Shall Burn is a fuckload more metal than KSE.

it sounds metal enough to be called metal to me... i just don't care for it.

so i'm finishing up the last video now... some of the riffs were cool but overrall these just get a big meh from me... all the vocalists sound like they are trying too hard and the chugga chugga riffs bore me... well hey i gave it a shot