Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater...
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Metal, prog, pop, rap, country, ragtime, whatever... I can enjoy just about anything, depending on my mood. But it has to be done well. It has to be memorable and exciting and a joy to listen to (even mopey music can manage that in its own way). SFAM was one of my all-time favourite albums by anyone ever, but since then every DT release just feels more and more.. I dunno... tedious. They still have brief flashes of greatness and they still execute like sonsofbitches, but somewhere along the way their songwriting process seems to have shifted to "can we put these two parts together?" instead of "should we put these two parts together?". I listen to their best (IMO) songs and I want each riff or melody to never end but when it does I think "YES, that's exactly what needed to happen there, awesome". The songs they write now, I'm just slogging through each part, waiting for it to get to the next one allfuckingready but oh fuck me no now it's even worse. 
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Metal, prog, pop, rap, country, ragtime, whatever... I can enjoy just about anything, depending on my mood. But it has to be done well. It has to be memorable and exciting and a joy to listen to (even mopey music can manage that in its own way). SFAM was one of my all-time favourite albums by anyone ever, but since then every DT release just feels more and more.. I dunno... tedious. They still have brief flashes of greatness and they still execute like sonsofbitches, but somewhere along the way their songwriting process seems to have shifted to "can we put these two parts together?" instead of "should we put these two parts together?". I listen to their best (IMO) songs and I want each riff or melody to never end but when it does I think "YES, that's exactly what needed to happen there, awesome". The songs they write now, I'm just slogging through each part, waiting for it to get to the next one allfuckingready but oh fuck me no now it's even worse.
I have to agree. With DT I don;t care about how true to their first two albums they were. All I care about is, is the album as a whole rememorable? Do the song make me feel good and make me want to listen to it again. There are only three DT albums that don't do that for me, and that is Falling Into Infinity, Systematic Chaos, and Black Clouds and Silver Linings. Every album otehr than that IMO, for the most part is memorable and for me as a hardcore DT fan, is all that matters.
Though with Portnoy leaving it would be cool to hear a more old school , IaW/Awake sound come back into the realm of new DT.
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The fact that the band totally lacked enough creativity to come up with their own shit and virtually covered a Muse song is what ruins the song for me.
But each to their own
Talking of Muse, just saw them last saturday, the BEST live sounding gig ive ever been to, and the stage show was awesome!!
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Torniojaws
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Somehow I don't think the second part is true. In fact, he'll probably make more in Avenged Sevenfold than in Dream Theater, which even in its current state is far from a popular band. That is always the sad case - you can choose between writing meaningful music or selling music, but never both of them at the same time
Skinny Viking
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I don't think its that they lacked creativity for those 6 minutes .. I think a couple of the guys were just really diggin on MUSE at that moment and decided to do something similar filtered through the DT engine
c'mon man, who hasn't written a song that was strongly reminiscent of a band they might really be groovin to at the moment? If 1/2 the album was sounding like that I would be inclined to agree with you but one tune and a small part in another song? Thats pretty normal to me
Skinny Viking
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I discovered Muse about 5 years ago ... it seriously changed my thoughts on music in a few ways and to top it off, they are just fucking unbelievable live
I got into them pretty much 10 years ago, just after their first album. I couldn't believe DT wrote such a similar tune, but yeah, amazing live show!
Keregioz
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Are you saying that he didn't make a shitload of money with DT? Because that's absurd. DT is one of the most successful bands in metal.
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Jeff,
as much as I said I was going to ignore you, I just cant help but say ... OK WE FUCKING GET IT ALREADY!
You don't like the new DT. Fine now STFU about it. This thread was not intended to be a Majesty > DT > Portnoytheater thread. It was meant for the discussion of Mike leaving the band. If you feel that Mike leaving the band is a good thing then say so and move on. If you think Mike leaving the band is a bad thing say so and move on. Everyone has their own opinion of what makes a great album. Your opinion is not the only one in existence, and pushing / forcing that opinion on other people is outright WRONG. People don't HAVE to agree with you. You have done nothing in this thread but make smart ass remarks and snide comments toward anyone who doesn't feel like Awake was the last great DT record. You have been getting on my case for 6 months for doing the same thing in other threads on this forum. I saw the light grew the fuck up and stopped.
So to you Mr. Hypocritical I say .....
Get off your fucking high horse dick head, and realize YOU are not the be all end all of musical opinion no matter how much your self inflated egotistical piece of shit head wants to be.
/FIN
as much as I said I was going to ignore you, I just cant help but say ... OK WE FUCKING GET IT ALREADY!
You don't like the new DT. Fine now STFU about it. This thread was not intended to be a Majesty > DT > Portnoytheater thread. It was meant for the discussion of Mike leaving the band. If you feel that Mike leaving the band is a good thing then say so and move on. If you think Mike leaving the band is a bad thing say so and move on. Everyone has their own opinion of what makes a great album. Your opinion is not the only one in existence, and pushing / forcing that opinion on other people is outright WRONG. People don't HAVE to agree with you. You have done nothing in this thread but make smart ass remarks and snide comments toward anyone who doesn't feel like Awake was the last great DT record. You have been getting on my case for 6 months for doing the same thing in other threads on this forum. I saw the light grew the fuck up and stopped.
So to you Mr. Hypocritical I say .....
Get off your fucking high horse dick head, and realize YOU are not the be all end all of musical opinion no matter how much your self inflated egotistical piece of shit head wants to be.
/FIN
guitarguru777
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Justrememberthegrammarpolicealwayscomeoutwhennoonecanthinkofanythingelseintellegenttosayseewhatididthargoaway
Virgil.
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All i can do is LOL.... back to the ignore button you go.
Oh and one last thing. My comment wasnt in reference at all to what you said above. It was about the exchange you had with TheWinterSnow where you clearly got your panties in a bunch cause he enjoyed Octavairum, and you had to lash out like a 2 year old and say:
then had to follow it up with your own self admitted Douchebaggery
Ya we get it, you don't like change. So just GTFO and leave the discussion to the real DT fans.
Oh and one last thing. My comment wasnt in reference at all to what you said above. It was about the exchange you had with TheWinterSnow where you clearly got your panties in a bunch cause he enjoyed Octavairum, and you had to lash out like a 2 year old and say:
then had to follow it up with your own self admitted Douchebaggery
Ya we get it, you don't like change. So just GTFO and leave the discussion to the real DT fans.
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