MMA

[King Richard]

Who else loves watching MMA around here? Let's talk any and all things MMA.

UFC 105 is tonight as well. Discuss some of the match-ups.

On a side note, I just started my own MMA blog here if you are interested in reading it.

 

[SweptbackFlame]

I like it...I don't watch it...but I do stay a bit up to date with what's happening...

GSP for life son...

 

[AchrisK]

I got into watching the UFC when they used to play it on the free TV, but I don't think they still do.

 

[King Richard]

UFC 105 is on Spike right now. It's not PPV.

 

[Badbird]

There is a another MMA thread in this fourm so I think this should be closed.

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

Randy Couture is amazing.

To fight at 46 is just insane.

I would love to see Randy winning, his strategy is to clinch and take Brandon down.Although I dont think Vera can submit Couture, if Couture clinches with Brandon it could be a mistake.

Brandon Vera by KO round 3

 

[muzmaze]

Been digging the MMA / UFC for awhile now.

Dana White may be a slime-bag...but he's no dummy. Throwing the UFC 105 out there for free on Spike TV is a good move. Doing this to grab viewers and trying to offset the big Pacquiao v Cotto ($) boxing match.

 

[Caecius]

The Ultimate Fighter: Heavyweights has been a joke. None of the contestants seem worthy, and Rampage's team is trash.

I hope Brock loses next weekend also.

 

[Badbird]

I hope Brock loses next weekend also.

I hope Brock loses too.

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

The Ultimate Fighter: Heavyweights has been a joke. None of the contestants seem worthy, and Rampage's is trash.

I hope Brock loses next weekend also.

Agreed.

and Rampage is a complete moron.

 

[muzmaze]

is it possible to be a big UFC MMA fan ...but not really like the Ultimate Fighter series / show?

Couture just decisioned Vera? Not from what I saw.

 

[AchrisK]

UFC 105 is on Spike right now. It's not PPV.

I'm talking cable vs. antenna. Pay vs. free.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

Brock isnt fighting... he has mono.
Randy is such a good dude. Love to see him with the win.

and exactly, UF Heavyweights has been very meh

 

[BlackMetalWhiteGuy]

I could post this in the Whining And Bitching Thread, but it would probably be more relevant in here. I decided to make a more comprehensive martial arts facebook quiz than anything else that's available so far and have been organizing stuff in Word for about two days now. I was finally able to group different styles together in a way that efficiently narrowed the results down to fifteen possible outcomes only to find out that the quiz making app that I settled on only allows ten results.

Anyway, these are the groupings that I came up with for the results.

01) Aikido
02) Boxing
03) Capoeira
04) Judo / Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu / Sambo
05) Jujutsu / Hapkido
06) Karate
07) Krav Maga / Kajukenbo
08) Kung Fu / Wushu
09) Muay Thai / Muay Boran
10) Ninjutsu
11) Pankration
12) Taekwondo / Kickboxing
13) Wing Chun / Jeet Kune Do
14) Wrestling
15) Weapon Arts - Archery (Kyudō, Kyujutsu) Bayonet (Jūkend&#333, Bojutsu, Jōdō / Jōjutsu, Kusarigamajutsu, Naginatajutsu, Rope Restraining (Hojōjutsu, Nawajutsu) Sword (Battōjutsu, Iaido, Kendo, Tameshigiri) Spear (sojutsu) Sticks (Arnise, Escrima, Kali)

Are there any suggestions for how I can narrow it down to ten? Please keep in mind a few things though.

01) Aikido
04) Judo / Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu / Sambo
05) Jujutsu / Hapkido
11) Pankration
14) Wrestling

These are intentionally separate categories, because 01 has no competition of any kind and is exclusively defensive with no striking, 04 are competitive grappling sports, 05 are defensive non-sport grappling with some striking, 11 is intensive striking and grappling with only eye gouges and biting outlawed. 14 is separate from 01, 04 and 05 because it relies less on technique and more on power, and because it doesn't teach defense against weapons. 11 doesn't teach defense against weapons either, but striking, choking and joint locking are legal.

06) Karate
09) Muay Thai / Muay Boran
12) Taekwondo / Kickboxing

06 and 09 are both very hard-bodied practices with a lot of knees and elbows, but 06 is slightly more of a mixed art and more spiritual. 09 are almost exclusively striking, but are for sport and combat respectively. 12 are both sports, but a lot of techniques from 09 are illegal in 12.

08) Kung Fu / Wushu
13) Wing Chun / Jeet Kune Do

13 are variations of 08, but 08 are flashy ans sporty while 13 are simple and practical.

Basically, those are the things that I considered condensing, but no matter what I try to do I can't make anything work in my head. Maybe I'm just better off finding another quiz maker app or learning how to create my own

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

well it looks like Lesnar is in real bad shape right now.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_y...Eo14?slug=dw-lesnar111709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Last month Brock Lesnar sat in a small-town, fast food restaurant, surrounded by blue-collar townies, munching on a five-dollar foot long. He was the reigning Ultimate Fighting Championship heavyweight title holder, yet unlike his old days as a professional wrestler/entertainer, he was far from the spotlight.

His life was now about family, training and humble hard work. It was the antithesis of his days making millions in the cutthroat, 300-days-on-the-road, close-down-the-nightclubs-fast-lane of the WWE.

That was an existence he grew to detest, so much so that five years ago he walked away from a multi-million dollar contract with no job.

Then an interesting thing happened. By moving to real fighting, he found the real Brock Lesnar.

“This is who I am,” he said. “I’m a fighter.”

Now Lesnar is in for the biggest fight of his life; dealing with a serious illness – at this point just described as “bacterial infection in his intestinal tract.” He had “minor surgery” in Bismarck, N.D. Tuesday, according to UFC president Dana White.

“Not 100 (percent) sure he is out of the woods but (he’s) feeling better,” White wrote via Twitter.

The illness has caused the postponement of one title defense and, according to White, could even cost him his budding second-career.

“There’s a possibility Lesnar will never fight again,” White told TMZ.com on Monday.

Lesnar is famously private and precise details of what’s wrong have not been released. His management team and the UFC have declined further comment. All we know is that he grew so weak during an October training camp that he had to pull out of a fight that was scheduled for this Saturday.

The first diagnosis was mono. White said Saturday, though, that Lesnar was “very, very sick.” While he wouldn’t reveal the illness, he said it wasn’t cancer or HIV. There is no word on whether Tuesday’s surgery solves the problem or is just the first of many treatments.

Either way, for Lesnar the person, the timing is tough.

The 32-year old had entered a period of professional success, personal contentment and family bliss (a new baby boy with his wife, former wrestling star Sable, while living near his second grade daughter from a previous relationship).

It was a journey that was a long time and numerous bold lifestyle changes in the making.

After winning a NCAA wrestling championship at the University of Minnesota in 2000, Lesnar entered the scripted WWE as a natural born star. At 6-3, 300-pounds, he boasted incredible athletic ability and a natural touch as an actor. He was a headliner by 2002 and for three years made millions while living the predictable wild life on the road of someone young, rich and famous.

“You could either stay in or go out,” he said. “Guess which I chose?”

Increasingly he detested it. He was miserable. He later got a tattoo of a sword on his chest, blade pointed at his neck.

“At the time it symbolized someone (having) a knife up against my throat,” he said.

The WWE has a long, ugly history of pushing its wrestlers to cut corners and compete at all costs. Dozens of pro wrestlers have died young, even in their 20s and 30s. Others have pointed to a culture of steroids (Lesnar has denied ever taking them), pain killers and substance abuse.

Whatever the reason, Lesnar did what few do. He walked away. He attempted to get out of his contract by trying out for the Minnesota Vikings even though he hadn’t played football since high school. He almost made the team.

He pro wrestled in Japan, got into a legal battle with the WWE and, in 2006, just retired and left everything behind. The $7 million contract. The all-night parties. The rush of fame.

His decision is beyond rare – there’s a reason they’ll never run out of subjects for “True Hollywood Stories.”

Lesnar said he’d rather farm than continue. The fake wrestler was going to be true to himself. He had no clear career path. He said he was depressed. He bought some land. He ran a tractor.

Then he gave mixed martial arts a chance and after one contest approached Dana White.

“Let me fight,” Lesnar begged back in 2007. “Give me one chance.”

The UFC is the highest level of cage fighting, filled with experts at things like Brazilian jiu-jitsu and Muay Thai boxing. If you don’t know what you’re doing, you’ll get hurt. Even a former NCAA wrestling champ.

“It’s no place for on the job training,” White cautioned.

Lesnar didn’t care.

“I’m either good at this or I’m not,” he said, asking for world class competition from the start, unwilling to waste any more of the present as he searched for a future.

In less than a year he was the UFC heavyweight champion and its biggest box office draw. It turns out he wasn’t just good at MMA, he was great at it.

Suddenly he could earn millions by fighting just a few times a year. Gone were weeks with seven shows in seven cities. It was a real sport. He retreated to Alexandria, Minn., a working-class town a two-hour drive northwest of Minneapolis. It’s where his daughter lives.

He and Sable bought a 40-acre farm in the woods. They had their first son in June. He became the rare athlete who openly discussed trying to be the best father and husband he could.

When not working out at a non-descript training facility, he hunts and fishes. He drives rusted, used trucks. He doesn’t have the Internet. If it weren’t for an occasional hunting show and NFL football, he’d throw out his television. He eats at Subway.

He couldn’t be happier. He’s found balance.

“Fighting is not my life,” he said last month, eating a meatball sub. “My family is my life. I know who I am and what I’m about. My wife knows who I am. My children know who I am. My friends. That’s all that matter to me.”

He’s poured himself into becoming a better fighter, paying training partners and experts to come in and make him better.

He was on the verge of a long career, perhaps even an extended run as the champion. Everything was humming, professionally and personally. The gamble of walking away from the circus and into an honest life had paid off.

Then a week after we had lunch in Alexandria, he got sick. Then he got sicker. Now he might need further hospitalization, surgery, treatment, who knows.

Now everything is up in the air for a guy who found happiness by getting grounded.

 

[Dak]

I quit being overly interested in UFC when every fatass started wearing tapout/affliction/etc gear and showing up at the bars for UFC PPV.

But I do like Lesnar. Probably because he's good at what he does and everyone else doesn't like him.

 

[muzmaze]

I hope Lesnar (like many others) isn't just another former WWF guy that becomes sick and passes on due to abusing his body in the WWF days?? Hope he has good health and can overcome this for his own and families sake...if he can make it back to the UFC...then great.

 

[-CC-]

Hey you guys jacked my MMA thread!!

Anyway, I'm a massive fan of MMA, went to UFC 104 last month and saw Shogun Vs Machida in Premier Seating at Staples Center (won the tickets btw, I'm not THAT big of a fan to shell out like 400 bucks)

Huge fan of Mirko Filipovic, and the fact that he agreed to finishing his contract (I believe he has 2 more fights) made me giddy, though his entire run at UFC has been nothing short of disappointing

Also I think that Cain Velasquez is one of the more underrated heavyweights right now, and that he definitely will be champion one day!

Josh Neer is another fighter that is a favorite among mine, has anyone seen his fight with Melvin Guillard?! Probably one of the greatest UFC fights ever! (Not as good as some classic PRIDE fights though!)

And lastly, why is everyone bitching about the tapout clothing phenomena...what is the big effing deal? So what if people think they are badass in a tapout shirt..it's a sport after all! I don't see people bitching about football fans wearing a sports jacket?

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

everyone watch VS tonight to see some WEC action.
Mike Brown is fighting Jose Aldo. It will probably be awesome.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Hey, does anyone here actually practice a martial art?

I've been thinking about taking up Wing Chun since it seems pretty accessible and popular, and if I ever try living in Hong Kong for a while it might help me make friends among the locals. Anyone have other suggestions?