More Audix Madness

[Matt Smith]

I borrowed a Dual Rectifier from work the other day since I'd never played through one and wanted to try it out. I also borrowed an Audix i5 mic (and purchased a D6), so I figured I should be a good Sneap forum member and post a clip in case anyone's interested.
Excuse my crappy drumming. As you can tell, I'm not a drummer. No triggers/samples in this clip, obviously.

Mics:

Guitar Cab-i5
Kick-D6
Snare Top-i5
Snare Bottom-Studio Projects C1
Overheads-Oktava MK-012

Here's the clip.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

That's 4 tracks of rectifier, right? After hearing that, it makes sense to me why one would want to blend a krank or 5150 with it. Thanks for the sample....BTW tight drumming Lars!!!

 

[Matt Smith]

Nope, it's only 2 guitar tracks. LOL @ the Lars comment...I really gave him a run for his $$ here!

 

[kaomao]

As you can tell, I'm not a drummer. No triggers/samples in this clip, obviously.

Hey matt please tell me how can you obtain that clicky kick from a natural one!! (pics/comp/eq are welcome)
Andy didn't tell us he can obtain that typical sneapish sound!

Maurizio

 

[Matt Smith]

OK, here's a more produced version of the same clip...2 tracks of Krank Revolution added, samples, etc. Let me know how it sounds.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

OK, here's a more produced version of the same clip...2 tracks of Krank Revolution added, samples, etc. Let me know how it sounds.

Now that's what I'm
FUCKING talking about!!!!!

 

[kaomao]

OK, here's a more produced version of the same clip...2 tracks of Krank Revolution added, samples, etc. Let me know how it sounds.

Ok that's great Matt!!! as always!
Please the kick!!! tell me tell me tell me about it

Maurizio

 

[Hopkins-WitchfinderGeneral]

Start off by tuning the fucker very tight.

 

[Impy]

Pretty awesome guitarsound you've got there

 

[beechstudio]

Sounds killer Matt!

Checked out your site.......slammin' tunes on Theocracy! I may have to purchase one of your cd's!

Keep up the good work dude! You ROCK!

 

[Ermz]

Just wondering, Matt, where exactly did you place the kick to grab so much of the attack?

At the school studio I'm confined to either using a Beta 52 or a D112, and no matter where I seem to place it I get that 'beachball-hitting-floor' sound - none of this defined attack.

 

[Pigpen]

Pray tell Mr Smith, where does one get such a kick ass boogie anyway?!

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Just wondering, Matt, where exactly did you place the kick to grab so much of the attack?

At the school studio I'm confined to either using a Beta 52 or a D112, and no matter where I seem to place it I get that 'beachball-hitting-floor' sound - none of this defined attack.

I'm in the same ballpark. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with using quality heads on the kick drum. It's real hard to get a sweet "kiss" sound as opposed to the beachball sound.

 

[Matt Smith]

As for the Boogie, I bummed it off some guy I met at a studio here in town.

About the kick, I didn't really do much to get that clicky sound, as the D6 has crazy high end. I did add a little upper midrange though. Positioning was just a few inches back from where the beater hits (inside the drum, of course), pointing at where the beater hits.
But on the "produced" version, that's just Andy's kick sample, untouched.

 

[Ermz]

Thanks, man. You didn't do anything like tape two coins to the beater point? Had a drummer do that at a session and acoustically it gave that really clicky sound, haha.

I'm still amazed at how Sneap-esque the drums sound on the more produced version of the track. If that was just done with the samples he shared with us, then I'm very excited.

 

[black sugar]

IMO, the D6 will get you very close right out of the box. Much more so than a D112 or Beta52, and I'd say it works better for me than an RE20 and the ND868, though I only tried the ND868 once.

It's not particularly placement sensitive, and no beachball to be found anywhere as far as I can tell.

Tune drum, shove mic in, record, eq/compress, enjoy.

I really want to try the D6 with a subkick or some kind of homebrew speaker mic now.

 

[kaomao]

As for the Boogie, I bummed it off some guy I met at a studio here in town.

About the kick, I didn't really do much to get that clicky sound, as the D6 has crazy high end. I did add a little upper midrange though. Positioning was just a few inches back from where the beater hits (inside the drum, of course), pointing at where the beater hits.
But on the "produced" version, that's just Andy's kick sample, untouched.

Matt, Maybe that top end is something about all audix's, I got i5 and I can clearly say that it has a lot of top end compared to our beloved sm57.
I had to move it a lot off centre compared with what I did usually with my trusty sm57.
sm57 boomy, i5 "top end-ish"

Maurizio

 

[Ermz]

57 boomy? Can't say I've ever had that. I find that the 57 is naturally very shy on lows and very rich on high mids... 'Boomy' only factored into it when I mic'ed a cab with a 421.

But to say that the i5 is even more bright than the 57... that's to say it's really really bright. Will definately have to try one - with the results some people here have been getting with it, it definately warrants a look into.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

IMO, the D6 will get you very close right out of the box. Much more so than a D112 or Beta52, and I'd say it works better for me than an RE20 and the ND868, though I only tried the ND868 once.

It's not particularly placement sensitive, and no beachball to be found anywhere as far as I can tell.

Tune drum, shove mic in, record, eq/compress, enjoy.

I really want to try the D6 with a subkick or some kind of homebrew speaker mic now.

Is there a difference between the black and silver D6's?

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

And one more thing Matt, did you try recording drums with a little room sound? I think that might help the mix.