NEVERMORE Singer: Found Out Via BLABBERMOUTH.NET That Guitarist And Drummer Quit

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I won't throw any hate. My whole point is that hating people is a waste of time, generally. And this whole elitist ["my post count is higher," "you didn't like them at the right time, you're a poser," "you don't like the right albums," etc, etc] shit is so stupid and detrimental to the music scene itself.
 
Well ... errrr ... ok ... I think Van was/is a pretty damn good drummer ... Is this now off-topic?