New BTBAM album?

Could never get into Colors, and I tried - always sounded like someone was randomly tuning a radio between Dream Theater, Suicide Silence, and TBDM, just so spastic and random

More like a mix of Opeth and Dream Theater..... I hear very little, if any, metalcore style riffing that sounds anything like suicide silence or the black dahlia murder. There is a huge Opeth influence though... listen to Opeth's Ghost Reveries album, and then listen to Colors... I think it's pretty obvious, and I love it.

Alaska and Colors are definitely my favorite albums by them.... by far the most musically mature. I like the old stuff too, but I'm glad they moved away from the spastic grinding riffs and went more in the prog direction. You can easily hear the prog influence in parts on The Silent Circus cd and since then it's just developed and become the main style of the band... which I think is great... I can't wait for the new album :kickass:
 
Dude, are you serious? I don't wanna dwell on this too much, cuz people like what they like, and that's cool, but the first like 1 1/2 minutes of the frst full track on the album (The Decade of Statues, whatever the hell that means) is all like Suicide Silence/Whitechapel/generic deathcore riffing (I don't listen to those bands very much, so maybe my specific comparison to SS and/or Whitechapel isn't accurate, but you get the idea), and then the whole song just goes from section to different section to different section, with random notes all over the place (heavy DT influence, I agree, but that's not the aspect of DT I've ever liked) - and then that section at 4:26 might as well have pig squeals in the background (the spastic guitar/bass random lines with the almost BREE BREE BREE in the bg). In fact, yeah, the only part of this song I like is the part right after (where the layered clean vox and that cool middle-eastern style lead line come in). Back to "Evangelion" for me atm! :loco:

Also, the whole mix feels a bit muddy and undefined IMO, especially the vox, which could stand to be a bit more upfront (and the kick is a bit too pillowy for my tastes). But the bass tone is badass, and a helluva player
 
And GR is my favorite Opeth CD without a doubt, and I'm not hearing too much similarity tbh! (though given that there are like 9,000 different things happening in this album, maybe I just didn't make it to the part of a certain song that has it)
 
And GR is my favorite Opeth CD without a doubt, and I'm not hearing too much similarity tbh! (though given that there are like 9,000 different things happening in this album, maybe I just didn't make it to the part of a certain song that has it)

I definitely see what you mean about certain bands just shifting to random parts that don't make any sense. Attack! Attack! comes to mind here. I can't stand that shit either.

For some reason, however, it works for BTBAM IMO. For the longest time I didn't dig them very much, but just listened and listened and really grew to dig it. They were equally good live too. Real tight and on point.

I think I'll give "Colors" another listen tonight. "Evangelion" also. I guess I'm the only one that likes the production, hehe. I wouldn't mind the guitar sound from "Demigod" on there though.

-Joe
 
Bleh, "Colors" may sound very muddy and indistinct to me, but Evangelion is just SO fucking thin; no bass, and the guitars are nasally and scratchy - WHO'S FUCKING IDEA WAS IT TO SEND IT TO COLIN :cry:
 
Bleh, "Colors" may sound very muddy and indistinct to me, but Evangelion is just SO fucking thin; no bass, and the guitars are nasally and scratchy - WHO'S FUCKING IDEA WAS IT TO SEND IT TO COLIN :cry:

Dunno bro, but I recognize those traits. After repeated listens it grew on me!

If I had the ideal Behemoth album, it would have guitars from "Demigod," drums from "Evangelion," and vocals from either "The Apostasy" or "Evangelion."

:lol:

-Joe
 
My bands singer heard the cd a week or so ago since he plays in a band with Dustie and Blake. He said it was quite good, but pretty different. Probably just taking what they did with "Colors" and pushing the prog button even more, which I am totally down with.

holy crap dude, PLEASE ask him ore about it if you can.

is it all one big song like colors?
is it heavier than colors?
how epic is swim to the moon?

would be greatly appreciated
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I will ask him exactly like that.

Honestly guys I don't want to seem like a superfan to the dudes. It just comes off a bit weird, but if we discuss it much I will definantly let you guys know of any cool stuff I find out.
 
Yeah I'm also not big on BTBAM. All my friends that are into music love them but I can't stand how unstructured the music is (to me at least).
Like they made up metal parts, then folk parts, then power parts then some crazy stupid barn yard parts and decided to match the ones that are in the same key together, to make one song.
Just when you get into one section it changes.

I noticed Opeth doing that and it sorta puts me off a little.
Dream Theater...that vocalist can fuck right off! I think they found him on a mountain yodeling. But their music also sorta changes every time which is dumb.

Like Marcus said "you like what you like" I guess It's equivalent to me not being able to stand eating solid tomatoes but others can chew right into them. :puke:

Edit: I just re-read my post again, and realised it sounded like a bit of a rant which wasn't intentional.
Apart from what I said, BTBAM are insanely good musicians :)
 
Dude, are you serious? I don't wanna dwell on this too much, cuz people like what they like, and that's cool, but the first like 1 1/2 minutes of the frst full track on the album (The Decade of Statues, whatever the hell that means) is all like Suicide Silence/Whitechapel/generic deathcore riffing (I don't listen to those bands very much, so maybe my specific comparison to SS and/or Whitechapel isn't accurate, but you get the idea), and then the whole song just goes from section to different section to different section, with random notes all over the place (heavy DT influence, I agree, but that's not the aspect of DT I've ever liked) - and then that section at 4:26 might as well have pig squeals in the background (the spastic guitar/bass random lines with the almost BREE BREE BREE in the bg). In fact, yeah, the only part of this song I like is the part right after (where the layered clean vox and that cool middle-eastern style lead line come in). Back to "Evangelion" for me atm! :loco:

Also, the whole mix feels a bit muddy and undefined IMO, especially the vox, which could stand to be a bit more upfront (and the kick is a bit too pillowy for my tastes). But the bass tone is badass, and a helluva player

Decade of Statues is one of the more straight forward, heavy songs on the cd... pretty different from a bunch of the others. Maybe you should listen to all of it? haha

Don't really care how the mix sounds to be honest... it's more about the composition...
 
Decade of Statues is one of the more straight forward, heavy songs on the cd... pretty different from a bunch of the others. Maybe you should listen to all of it? haha

Don't really care how the mix sounds to be honest... it's more about the composition...

I know, the mix is just a secondary observation, it doesn't shape my views on the music - however, while Decade of Statues may be one song, it manages to combine many things I despise into it, which is not a good first impression :loco: And I actually have listened to the others, just not for awhile, and I only listened to DoS today just to refresh my memory on why I hated it :lol: Maybe I'll check out the rest again some other time, but meh...
 
Positive or negative, I have to agree with Marcus that there are a fair amount of riffs that would generally be considered deathcore on that disk. Of course BTBAM had a big hand in shaping the more technical side of that sound.
 
Honestly, I like his Ibanez's way better. But thats just personal preference.

Interesting thing though about the new record is they used Petrucci's presets for the new cd. I don't know exactly how all that works bc Adam didnt go into detail with Dustie about it, but Dustie said something along the lines of he emailed John and John sent him all of his settings I guess and they used those. Must be cool to be able to do stuff like that.

I agree that I like the Ibanez guitars better, but DAMNNNNNNNN, Dustie's PRS is the best PRS I've seen to date.
 
the way the guitars and the kick fit together on evangelion is perfect, i do really quite like the guitar sound. the drums could be whole lot more vibe-y though. i see what ermz means about it sounding like the blackening haha.

also, color's mix is insultingly bad. i swear its the same studio that did alaska too, maybe im mistaken.
alaska is one of my favourite sounding albums ever though, im not sure much could have lived up to its glorious mix