Name calling, now this thread is descending into pointless squabbling. Accept others opinions without calling people names on the internet and this Opeth forum would be much better, myself included, but I don't think I got personal with TR. This is all subjective musical opinion with premeditated replys, and the best this TR person can come up with is asshat? C'mon, man I heard that shit in grade school. And some think he's a good debater? When he's probably quoting others from a book. People like this pervade the internet, those who think they have to prove others wrong with their views. They don't care about what others may think about a certain subject. They just want to jam down their opinions as the absolute. You don't think Enslaved are pushing boundaries, fine I don't care. I grew up with Miles Davis playing constantly in my home when I was a kid, and have spoken to many jazz musicians and have done research extensively on Miles. And believe me this TR person does'nt know everything about Miles Davis, let alone jazz, or music in general. But, he sure "sounds and writes" like he does, for those who have been here awhile, remember NFU? I would absolutely love to meet this TR in person, and then maybe we could debate music, without the shield of the internet. O.K. junior.