New Keyboardist Seeking to learn to play like Pinella (some day)

[1by4by9]

Thanks for the answer. I thought it would be logical for Pinnella to do so.

 

[Zax666]

Why would it be logical dude, they're not a cover band or something?

 

[Yngvai X]

I don't see why it would be logical for a keyboardist to rearrange the tuning on his keyboard. Guitarists tune down because they want their low E string to be a lower note than the standard E, thus heavier. A keyboardist has an 88 key scale (or maybe a little less if they're not using a full keyboard, but still) so they have access to every pitch from a low A, which is the equivilant of a 5 string bass tuned down a whole step, to notes way up there in the violin and flute range, so it would be pretty illogical for a keyboardist to adjust the tuning of his keyboard because the guitarist did it on his guitar.

 

[Luis]

Yeah, Turning down your keyboard is ilogical however its possible. Like Yngvai said modern keyboards have 88 notes, So you dont need to make turning expirements.

 

[1by4by9]

Illogical then it is.

Another view: It would be easier to write sheet music having the instruments in the same tuning. For example a guitarist playing something in F#m while keyboardist playing in Em would make it too messy, IMO. I just got into thinking this because I always "downtune" keyboard along with guitars when writing sheet music.

Maybe I´m too stuck with those Guitar Pros and Powertab Editors...

But anyway, thank you for this information.

 

[Yngvai X]

Illogical then it is.

Another view: It would be easier to write sheet music having the instruments in the same tuning. For example a guitarist playing something in F#m while keyboardist playing in Em would make it too messy, IMO. I just got into thinking this because I always "downtune" keyboard along with guitars when writing sheet music.

Maybe I´m too stuck with those Guitar Pros and Powertab Editors...

But anyway, thank you for this information.

Sheet music is written in different keys for different instruments all the time. You think that when a jazz ensamble gets together the keyboard player tunes the piano down a whole step because the horns are a Bb instrument?

 

[Zax666]

I just want to note something:

Guitarists don't ONLY tune their guitars a whole step lower just to get 2 lower semitones. That way the instrument acts like a shorter-scaled one and ALL notes are fatter, no matter where on the neck. If you've experimented with Drop D vs. D standard you'll have noticed that in the second one the tone is thicker.

Not to metion the tension it gives to 10-46/52 strings, PLUS you're no longer playing in the same f***ing key as every guitarist in the hood.

 

[spellbound-by-the-bodom]

Hey i'm not overally experinced but i'll offer some good advice firstly
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A WEIGHTED OR SEMI WEIGHTED KEYBOARD! i really cannot express this enough you know a good start would be

EMU PK6 - which i own it should be avallible for like $500 and has expansion cards for like $120 such as extra orchestra sounds and "xtreme leads" so i will be ordering these.

I have also heard very good things about the alesis q6.2

Most keyboards arnt 88key.... I wouldnt fuck around with tuning it different it will just confuse you (and most people!) the only tuning variation i do is maybe shift the entire keyboard up a whole 12 steps or down

if you wanna do keyboard solos and stuff practicing going over scales from the low c to the high c and just practice these (FINGERING IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ) learn your keys like g major etc if you wanna work in a band and you need to shred etc and its just fun to improvise with backing tracks. Lead sounds are also pretty tricky to get right you could purchase a distortion pedal like a few metal keyboard players like jens and warman

If you need anything else i can try and help my msn address is finlandrocks@hotmail.com

Hope I helped

 

[Zax666]

@spellbound-by-the-bodom - I don't understand why should a light actioned keyboard not work. Somehow I link that sentence of yours with the usual "If you want to play guitar you gotta start on an acoustic"-style BS.

And can't you use the onboard DSP for distortion?

I don't know much about keyboards and don't think of pickin' one up, I'm just curious.

 

[OfSinsAndShred]

I could see one reason for detuning a keyboard. A lot of guitarists solo in A minor, right? And when they tune down a whole step, they play those same boxes and solo in G minor. Well, for a keyboard player, soloing in A minor is probably easy because it's all naturals, so if they have to go down to G, they could just detune and play the same keys. I think it's stupid though, most keyboard players actually know their scales and stuff. That's the first time I even heard of detuning keys.

Edit: I'm fallin asleep here, I don't know how much sense that made.